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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:04 am 
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Hackney cab fares go up 50p per journey in Plymouth


HACKNEY cab fares in the city have risen by an extra 50p per journey, which has been met with mixed feelings.

Drivers are divided by the change in tariff, with some worried about losing custom in the current economic climate and others believing it is a realistic time to charge more as their prices go up.

Gary Graham, aged 50, from Efford, disagrees with the rise. He said: "We should never have had it. I'm annoyed and I feel sorry for the public as they've got to pay for it.

"I speak because I'm concerned. Me and all the drivers need to apologise to the public. The rise is affecting us as well - this is more than a nail in the coffin."

David Couch, aged 59, from Efford, has been a taxi driver for nine years and is frustrated about the increase and what it could do to business.

He said: "Most of us are really annoyed about it; it's the wrong time to do it and it's totally and utterly not acceptable.

"It's just entirely the wrong time."

Dave Feteridge, aged 52, from Stoke, also believes the change in tariff to be wrong.

He said: "When a customer gets in the cab during the day the fare starts at £3, and then after 7pm it goes up to £3.50, so an extra 50p won't be too bad. It's the 50p at midnight that's wrong.

"That makes it expensive before you've gone anywhere. It's just the wrong time to do it in my view."

However, according to Plymouth City Council, The Plymouth Licensed Taxi Association (PTLA) requested that the council considered an increase to the tariff, as it is the council that sets the fares that Hackney Carriages can charge (this does not include private hire taxis).

The tariff outlines the maximum rates a driver can charge in order to protect the consumer but drivers are able to downwardly negotiate their fares should they wish and journeys outside Plymouth can be negotiated further.

The tariff was originally considered by the Licensing Committee on September 2 and a proposed new tariff was publicised via a public notice in The Herald as is required by the law.

Three objections were received by the council so a further committee discussed the proposed tariff on November 17 where it was subsequently agreed and was introduced on December 1.

The council said that the PLTA were consulted at each stage and presented their case at committee, which represent between half and a third of the licensees.

A Plymouth City Council spokeswoman said: "Giving the exact increase is not easy, as the tariff was restructured and there are some changes to the list extras. However, it can be most simply described by giving the initial journey cost, which has increased by approximately 50p.

"This is the first tariff increase since June 2008. Bearing in mind the increases to the cost of fuel, it was felt that the tariff increase could be justified and Plymouth's Hackney fleet is still very competitive."

Alan Heron, aged 65, from Derriford, agreed this may be the right to time to make such changes.

He said: "We haven't had an increase for three years and with fuel, insurance and maintenance costing more money, I'm pleased with the rise in tariff."

Gary Walker, aged 47, from St Budeaux, agreed. He said: "It's a good rise; the cost of living has gone up and fuel has gone up so the council had to do it."

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I have been doing some sums to put to our council who have just approved an increase of 28 pence per journey. Our last increase was over 3 years ago. Since then diesel has gone up from 98.9 pence per litre to 141.9pence per litre. Insurance this year alone has risen by £300 per vehicle. Assuming that a car covers 30,000 miles in the year at 40 MPG that would need 750 gallons of fuel or 3405 litres. The difference in the price of diesel is 43 pence per litre so that is £1464.15 extra for the fuel add the insurance and it is £1764.15 the cost of licensing has also increased and the cost of maintenance but leaving those increases out of the calculation we are still looking at doing 6300 fares a year just to be back to where we were 3 years ago.

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I have been doing some sums to put to our council who have just approved an increase of 28 pence per journey. Our last increase was over 3 years ago. Since then diesel has gone up from 98.9 pence per litre to 141.9pence per litre. Insurance this year alone has risen by £300 per vehicle. Assuming that a car covers 30,000 miles in the year at 40 MPG that would need 750 gallons of fuel or 3405 litres. The difference in the price of diesel is 43 pence per litre so that is £1464.15 extra for the fuel add the insurance and it is £1764.15 the cost of licensing has also increased and the cost of maintenance but leaving those increases out of the calculation we are still looking at doing 6300 fares a year just to be back to where we were 3 years ago.


I thought all your cabs where all LPG?????????? at £0.70 a litre, or less as you have your own tank


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Not all are on LPG Skippy, only the ones on petrol. I am also "speaking" to the council on behalf of other drivers who are having to pay for diesel.

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Not all are on LPG Skippy, only the ones on petrol. I am also "speaking" to the council on behalf of other drivers who are having to pay for diesel.


Could you put up a comparison on the LPG vehicles to compare them


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skippy41 wrote:
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Not all are on LPG Skippy, only the ones on petrol. I am also "speaking" to the council on behalf of other drivers who are having to pay for diesel.


Could you put up a comparison on the LPG vehicles to compare them

Do you mean on here or to the council?

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grandad wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
grandad wrote:
Not all are on LPG Skippy, only the ones on petrol. I am also "speaking" to the council on behalf of other drivers who are having to pay for diesel.


Could you put up a comparison on the LPG vehicles to compare them

Do you mean on here or to the council?


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I have been doing some sums to put to our council who have just approved an increase of 28 pence per journey. Our last increase was over 3 years ago. Since then diesel has gone up from 98.9 pence per litre to 141.9pence per litre. Insurance this year alone has risen by £300 per vehicle. Assuming that a car covers 30,000 miles in the year at 40 MPG that would need 750 gallons of fuel or 3405 litres. The difference in the price of diesel is 43 pence per litre so that is £1464.15 extra for the fuel add the insurance and it is £1764.15 the cost of licensing has also increased and the cost of maintenance but leaving those increases out of the calculation we are still looking at doing 6300 fares a year just to be back to where we were 3 years ago.


If the above was LPG what would the figures be


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Will 50p a trip extra put that many people off getting a cab?

I hope not, because all that extra money is being swallowed up by fuel and insurance hikes.

Might be a few less tips at worst, IMO.

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50p per TRIP is a joke, but if any driver isnt happy at charging it they can give it back to the punter......

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Will 50p a trip extra put that many people off getting a cab?

I hope not, because all that extra money is being swallowed up by fuel and insurance hikes.

Might be a few less tips at worst, IMO.



I was thinking the same, the guy who was spouting off about having to explain to the punters about the fare increase has lost the plot IMO, if people want a cab they'll pay for it.

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50p per TRIP is a joke, but if any driver isnt happy at charging it they can give it back to the punter......



Correct. Some Dime Bars on our firm decided to drop the tarrif 2 and charge tariff 1 all the time, that was until they added up how much they were losing over a weekend shift. They soon scrapped the idea after 3 weekends of running on it.

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Seems a strange way of increasing the fare's. Why add 50p to every job? Surely it would be better to increase the charge for every mile travelled as someone travelling half a mile will be charged the same extra amount as someone travelling 10 or 20 miles.


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Southport PH wrote:
Seems a strange way of increasing the fare's. Why add 50p to every job? Surely it would be better to increase the charge for every mile travelled as someone travelling half a mile will be charged the same extra amount as someone travelling 10 or 20 miles.



Maybe the majority of fares are rtfc?

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captain cab wrote:
Southport PH wrote:
Seems a strange way of increasing the fare's. Why add 50p to every job? Surely it would be better to increase the charge for every mile travelled as someone travelling half a mile will be charged the same extra amount as someone travelling 10 or 20 miles.



Maybe the majority of fares are rtfc?

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Yep.

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I'll have the 10-20 mile jobs if Southport doesn't want them :D


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