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[I fail to see the relevence to the limited hackney carriage trade, the trade dont limit numbers, local authorities do, the trade dont set fares, local authorities do. and you know this as well, you laal devil

Captain cab

I don't quite get the point here Cap - the point being made is that the medallion rentals in NY show quite clearly where the money paid by the jockey is going, whereas in the UK it's not quite so clear.

It was clear enough in Dundee for example, since the plates were being rented for a fixed sum, but in the more general case in the UK, such as in Brighton, where the plate AND car is being rented, it's not so clear.

I'm sorry I must have mis-understood, I dont think it actually stated plate only. However, if a plate is issued in a restricted area, how is there still a restriction?

I didn't say that the number was agreed on, just that there's an agreement to restrict numbers!

Section 16 just sets limits on the LAs discretion, but it doesn't change the fact that the 'trade' and the LA are agreeing to restrict numbers.

And there's not anything illegal about it, hence the inclusion of the word..err...legal

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well why didnt the document state where this occurred?

What is needed is a straightforward comparison between limited and delimited areas. If it is possible to do a chart on plate values, it is surely possible to do one similar for vehicle rentals.

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How can there be an agreement when only one side has the power to decide?

Sorry, I disagree, its misleading.

we wont fall out about it though

Captain cab

For the same reason that it didn't state every tiny detail about the trade.

Have you given your password to GA Cap?

I agree with most of the points you raise, life isnt generally fair, but please consider the following;

The points regarding the costs of plates and resale values of plates are to a certain degree irrelavent as a local authority should consider unmet demand, not plate values when thinking about license numbers.

Captain cab

hehe,

my point reagrding your point, regarding the T&G's points towards North America.

I dont think it should have been in their document or this one, we agree on the smokescreen.

captain cab wrote:
What is needed is a straightforward comparison between limited and delimited areas. If it is possible to do a chart on plate values, it is surely possible to do one similar for vehicle rentals.

I'm not sure anything to do with rentals would be straight forward.

In my area, some pay a flat fee, some pay a % of the take, some even pay a mileage rate. There are also different rates for day and night, for week day and weekends, if you work part-time.

Then you have differing rates for cabs with radios or station permits, and of course if your motor is a pile of poo, then the rental will be cheaper than a brand new Merc.

I dont necessarily disagree, however, the inference is that a plate value is indicative of an unmet demand, an unmet demand survey is the gauge and the only gauge a local authority should use to limit numbers.

Concerning late nights it is generally accepted, and must surely be accepted by yourself too that if every licensed vehicle is at work and freely able to ply for hire, demand would still outstrip supply.

Need I point out the bank scenario?

Captain cab

NY is high profile as regards international taxi regulation, and the economic effects are more obvious than in the UK, that's why it was included.

I can't remember the T&G mentioning NY?

I know what you mean sussex, but the same applies to plate values, do you want one for £5k with a shed attached or £30k with a TX?

Your confusing me again, are you suggesting in Dundee they hire out plates without vehicles?