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Irrespective of how you choose to see it Dusty, the council is in the driving seat, from the inception of their policy to the refusal of licenses to losing in court. Ali, or anyone else, for that matter, has two choices, buy into a restricted market, or apply for a licence and challenge the council upon refusal through the courts.

No one is forcing the council to conduct themselves in the way that they do.

It's simply a question of right or wrong, truth or justice.

I'm not making a political or moral argument or judgment. It might seem that way but trust me. That's the council's problem not mine.

Isn't there a huge contradiction between the first and second sentences??

Not when you don't take them out of context.

Dusty, you're trying to make something out of the council's own making that has nothing to do with Ali, Jim or I. The council is the problem. It was they who created the problem of restriction in the first place.

Do yourself a favour and call it how it is. Forget about Ali and whether or not he's making money at the expense of a flawed council policy. The fact is, the council is in the driving seat, and have the power of life or death over the market. They could pull the plug on Ali, and everyone else, for that matter, but choose not to, and that's their choice.

No one is forcing them to conduct themselves like a parcel of rogues. It's what they do, you could hardly claim they are leading by example.

You live by the sword and all that. . .

Here's the political and moral argument if you really want one, the system is a farce and morally bankrupt. As for the rest of it, it's down to the courts to sort it out.

Couldn't agree more, and indeed that's the case I've been making for around 15 years now, ie long before either yourself or jasbar were.

But my point is that you can't exploit the system and complain about it at the same time. It's that simple.

Or beaten into submission?

CC

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But at a very basic level restricting numbers is perfectly legal, thus it you want to dismantle it then your campaign has to be political and moral, whether you're standing outside council HQ with a megaphone or simply railing against it on the internet.

You can't characterise councillors as a 'parcel of rogues' and then deny that you're making a political case.

The fact is that if you think restricted numbers is unfair then you're making a moral and political point. I can't really see why you would want to deny that, except born of defensiveness as regard's Ali's actions.

Are you for real?

I'm just agreeing with what Gary's saying because it's essentially what I've been saying for 15 years.

No one is exploiting the system. The system is what it is and everything after, simply cause and effect. If anything, by taking the council through the courts you are fighting against the exploitation of a restricted market.

Yes, if you win a plate for yourself and don't object to anyone else getting one.

Sorry.....I just got the impression you were bored to death with it from your answer.

Personally, I think its all a bit rich from someone....no thats wrong.....some people.... who have actively profited from the sale of plates......of course, they're now doing it just to prove the system is wrong......and of course they would give the silly dupes who bought their plates the cash back......but its all about these principles you see.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

who's talking about the fee for an application,its a scandalous cost.
but my original point was about whether survey should be paid for out of the licensing budget

My point exactly, and that's why I'm happy for Ali or anyone else that goes toe to toe with the council and wins.

No, Ali got a plate for himself - fair enough - but then he sold it, came back for another two, sold them and is now trying for another? Correct?