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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:37 pm 
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Sounds like a good solicitor to me,every credit to her and her client.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:03 pm 
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Sounds like a good solicitor to me,every credit to her and her client.


I'm not disputing her ability in the slightest but I'm not sure why the client deserves credit :lol:

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I do not think that the above is true! On many occasions I have said/told a punter that it is better to walk to a given destination! by not doing so I could be seen to be ripping off someone for a journey that was basically around the corner ish...so to speak. The way that our City on a Friday and Saturday night is cordoned off would mean a drive of over a mile and a half to get to a point of say 600 metres. The other side of the coin is that a potential passenger has been more than grateful for that advice because of not knowing the lay out of the City.


I agree on occasions advice is the best course of action but this lady asked twice and given the area,the time of night and the weather would you still suggest a single lady walk!!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:31 pm 
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I agree on occasions advice is the best course of action but this lady asked twice and given the area,the time of night and the weather would you still suggest a single lady walk!!



Point taken.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:34 pm 
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I once had to attend court in Coventry, being late and not having a clue where it was i jumped in a hack on a rank, the cabbie said it was only 300 yds on foot and it would be quicker walking

did i mind?

not a drop

i find it hard to rationalise why a pub landlord can refuse to serve me cos im drunk but a cabbie cant refuse to carry me cos im drunk

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:03 pm 
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i find it hard to rationalise why a pub landlord can refuse to serve me cos im drunk but a cabbie cant refuse to carry me cos im drunk


I think that you will find that you are wrong...............you can refuse, it is quite lawful to do so.

Your safety and other issues come into it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:49 pm 
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You can refuse when drunk, must refuse 2or 3 every sat night


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:41 pm 
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A taxi driver, who refused to take a woman to her home late at night in the rain, has been slapped with fines and costs of more than £1,000.

Syed Shaheed, 48, of Newark Road, Luton, had, via an Urdu interpreter, denied snubbing Jacqueline Doney’s request to go from Howardsgate to Walden Road – a distance of around 0.7 miles.


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The officer in this case was Mr Vaughan.

Has no one been informed that Syed Shaheed was acquitted on appeal to the Crown Court?

He was represented by Miss Ann Tayo who ensured My Shaheed's livelihood was restored and the fines slapped on him were returned to sender!

It took the Crown Court only a few minutes to return a not guilty verdict.


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Ann Tayo wrote:
The officer in this case was Mr Vaughan.

Has no one been informed that Syed Shaheed was acquitted on appeal to the Crown Court?

He was represented by Miss Ann Tayo who ensured My Shaheed's livelihood was restored and the fines slapped on him were returned to sender!

It took the Crown Court only a few minutes to return a not guilty verdict.

The report hasn't been in any press report, otherwise I think it would have appeared on here.

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In response to the question concerning the basis upon which the appeal was successful, my submissions were that you cannot found a conviction in law on the basis of a mere impression.

The prosecution bring the case and the prosecution must prove the case to a high level of assuredness. It's called the burden and standard of proof. You must be satisfied so that you are sure before convicting any individual, it used to be referred to as 'beyond reasonable doubt'. A man is innocent till proven guilty and the aim of the standard of proof is a safeguard to protect and prevent any person from being wrongly convicted.

This was a Crown Court Appeal which is by way of a rehearing. The height, depth and extent of the prosecution case was that Mrs Doney wasn't categorically refused but gave evidence to the effect that she formed the impression she was being refused.

Justice was done at the end of the day but it was unfortunate that Mr Shaheed was put through so much to clear his name.

GULLIBLE Я US OR WHAT?

• Syed Shaheed is convicted of cherry-picking at St Albans Magistrates Court in October 2011
• The report of the case from the Welwyn Hatfield Times appears on TDO a day later
• In February 2012 Ann Tayo posts a reply in the thread stating that Mr Shaheed’s conviction was quashed and he was acquitted on appeal to Crown Court
• Captain Cab replies, ‘The report hasn't been in any press report, otherwise I think it would have appeared on here.’
• Everyone on TDO goes along with Ann Tayo’s posts without any proof of Mr Shaheed’s acquittal at Crown Court

Possible scenarios;

• Mr Shaheed was indeed acquitted at Crown Court
OR Mr Shaheed eventually came across the thread on TDO or it was pointed out to him
• Mr Shaheed was not happy that he had been shamed on the global TDO website
• Mr Shaheed hatched a plan and arranged for a post from one Ann Tayo to appear on TDO professing his acquittal and innocence thereby ostensibly removing the global shame brought by the newspaper report and TDO post.
• And the gullible on TDO believed every word that was written by one Ann Tayo on this subject

Until I see a newspaper report of this alluded to acquittal, or an internet link to such a report or some other solid proof of Mr Shaheed’s acquittal at Crown Court, I for one will continue to believe that Mr Shaheed’s conviction at Magistrates Court continues to stand!!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:54 pm 
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I think its strange no report has been published in a local rag?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:56 pm 
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I think its strange no report has been published in a local rag?

No reporter at the hearing, and no PR release from the council.

Just TDO.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:04 pm 
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Ann Tayo wrote:
In response to the question concerning the basis upon which the appeal was successful, my submissions were that you cannot found a conviction in law on the basis of a mere impression.

The prosecution bring the case and the prosecution must prove the case to a high level of assuredness. It's called the burden and standard of proof. You must be satisfied so that you are sure before convicting any individual, it used to be referred to as 'beyond reasonable doubt'. A man is innocent till proven guilty and the aim of the standard of proof is a safeguard to protect and prevent any person from being wrongly convicted.

This was a Crown Court Appeal which is by way of a rehearing. The height, depth and extent of the prosecution case was that Mrs Doney wasn't categorically refused but gave evidence to the effect that she formed the impression she was being refused.

Justice was done at the end of the day but it was unfortunate that Mr Shaheed was put through so much to clear his name.



Of course using the civil burden of proof.....the LA simply have to call the chap to a licensing committee and basically revoke his license on the civil basis of proof.

I would suspect the lady concerned who made the complaint just didnt pick on this chap through wanting something better to do, the fact he his a breadwinner may pull a few heartstrings, but shouldnt he have thought of that before he allegedly refused the hiring?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:18 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Ann Tayo wrote:
In response to the question concerning the basis upon which the appeal was successful, my submissions were that you cannot found a conviction in law on the basis of a mere impression.

The prosecution bring the case and the prosecution must prove the case to a high level of assuredness. It's called the burden and standard of proof. You must be satisfied so that you are sure before convicting any individual, it used to be referred to as 'beyond reasonable doubt'. A man is innocent till proven guilty and the aim of the standard of proof is a safeguard to protect and prevent any person from being wrongly convicted.

This was a Crown Court Appeal which is by way of a rehearing. The height, depth and extent of the prosecution case was that Mrs Doney wasn't categorically refused but gave evidence to the effect that she formed the impression she was being refused.

Justice was done at the end of the day but it was unfortunate that Mr Shaheed was put through so much to clear his name.

Of course using the civil burden of proof.....the LA simply have to call the chap to a licensing committee and basically revoke his license on the civil basis of proof.

I would suspect the lady concerned who made the complaint just didnt pick on this chap through wanting something better to do, the fact he his a breadwinner may pull a few heartstrings, but shouldnt he have thought of that before he allegedly refused the hiring?

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Wasn't there an overturning of leniency on the breadwinner principle in a higher court recently?

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Wasn't there an overturning of leniency on the breadwinner principle in a higher court recently?


Are you going to enlighten me?

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captain cab wrote:
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Wasn't there an overturning of leniency on the breadwinner principle in a higher court recently?

Are you going to enlighten me?

CC


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Is that enlightening enough for you?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:47 pm 
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Seriously now;

A guy had his licence revoked by the Licensing Committee, appealed to Magistrates Court and won his appeal as revoking his licence would have created hardship for his family as he was the breadwinner.

The licensing authority appealed the decision to Crown Court and they found for the licensing authority, stating that Magistrates should have regard to the safety of the public when licensing, which was their function, and not take into account whether his family would suffer because he was the breadwinner.

This case was only a few weeks ago and I'm sure it's on TDO.

But then I may have had it from Brian with a Y.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:31 am 
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Unless it was a High Court the case is only persuasive.

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