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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:00 pm 
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English Defence League member denies ‘Muslim slur’ to taxi driver


A MEMBER of the English Defence League (EDL) has appeared in court charged with making religiously-aggravated threats to a Muslim taxi driver.

Charles Dickie, aged 23, of Tennyson Road, in Daventry, appeared before Northampton Magistrates’ Court yesterday where he denied making religiously or racially motivated verbal threats to the driver during an altercation in the town on Friday afternoon.

Dickie, who is believed to be a prominent local member of the EDL, pleaded guilty to possession of cannabis and to smashing a police phone while in custody.

The court was told Dickie was wearing an EDL T-shirt while walking along Brook Street, in Daventry, on Friday afternoon, and began pointing to emblems on the front and back of his T-shirt as he approached the Asian taxi driver.

He is accused of telling the taxi driver he was “not welcome here” before allegedly launching a tirade of abuse at him, including expletives and racist terms.

The court heard that after being arrested, Dickie then sang EDL songs while being driven to the police station. It was claimed he told police he “would be at the top one day” and warned “there better be lots of them as there will be 5,000 of me”. Police made a formal objection to a bail application after Dickie continued to make veiled threats during his time in custody over the weekend, it was said.

Officers also presented evidence of a number of anti-Muslim posts left on Dickie’s Facebook page, along with lyrics to EDL songs and other abuse posted in messages.

District Judge Tim Daber rejected his application for bail and decided to remand him in custody before trial. He said: “If we were to release you on bail I believe there would be a substantial risk that you would re-offend. For that reason I remand you in custody.”

He fined Dickie £70 for each of the other offences but waived the fines in lieu of the time he spent in police custody. Dickie then swore at the district judge and police officers watching as he was taken away in handcuffs.

He will now stand trial later this month.

He denies the charge.

source: http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:52 am 
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English Defence League member found guilty of threatening Muslim taxi driver because of his religion




A MAN who claims to be a member of the English Defence League has been found guilty of threatening a Muslim taxi driver because of his religion, after “refusing” to attend court to mount a defence to the charge.


Charles Dickie, aged 23, was due to appear before magistrates in Northampton yesterday to stand trial over an incident in Daventry earlier this month, but he would not get into a prison van to transport him to the hearing, the court heard.

After hearing the case in his absence, chair of the bench, Mabel Lilley, found the case against Dickie proved, and said the magistrates were minded to impose a 20-week prison sentence when Dickie could be brought before the court.

Taxi driver Sultan Ahmed said he had worked in Daventry for the past three-and-a-half years. He said that on Friday, March 2, he had been waiting for a customer in Brook Street at about 4.30pm when he was approached by Dickie.

Speaking through an interpreter, he said: “He said we are here, all over this place, in this country, and you are not welcome here.”

Dickie then sang a song insulting both Islam and Mr Ahmed and uttered expletives, before moving in closer and pointing to his genitals.

Mr Ahmed said: “He looked very angry and aggressive. He looked as if he was about to fight with me.”

Giovanni D’Alessandro, prosecuting, said Dickie had told police officers when arrested: “I’m not racist. I don’t like Muslims.”

He also talked continuously about the EDL and made threats towards a planned mosque in Daventry, the court was told.

Magistrates heard Dickie, of Tennyson Road, in Daventry, was previously convicted of making racially-aggravated threats in 2007, and they were shown evidence from his Facebook site to support the prosecution case.

Sentencing, Mrs Lilley said: “We feel this was a particularly nasty incident directed towards Mr Ahmed.

“There was a certain amount of planning on Mr Dickie’s part. He deliberately insulted Mr Ahmed and used abusive and insulting words towards him.”

In a statement to the court, Mr Ahmed said he had been “deeply upset and hurt” by Dickie’s actions, adding: “I can’t understand why Mr Dickie felt the way he did, to voice such hatred.”

Magistrates revoked a community order previously imposed against Dickie for an assault in Blackpool in May last year and for failure to surrender to bail.

Mrs Lilley said she was minded to sentence Dickie to four weeks in prison for the assault and two weeks for the bail offence, along with the 20 weeks for the religiously-aggravated offence against Mr Ahmed.

However, sentencing was adjourned to a date yet to be set.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/ ... -1-3675474

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:01 am 
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Charles Dickie, aged 23, was due to appear before magistrates in Northampton yesterday to stand trial over an incident in Daventry earlier this month, but he would not get into a prison van to transport him to the hearing, the court heard.

Not just a racist scumbag, a thick racist scumbag.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:00 pm 
why is it ppl like yourself continue to wave the card at others, you don't know what went on really, all you've been told is that whitey was nasty to someone different. you make no allowance for what someone different might have said or done to kick it off in the first place, you'd make a fine doorman, they always throw the retaliating guy out as well and leave the real perp alone.


I want you to consider this, recently we had an incident, a good friend of mine who isn't British, is white and generally plays the game approached another non British driver who isn't black but isn't white either about pulling a stroke getting to the rank, he should've let the other guy in but failed to do so, when the white driver went to tell him he was in the wrong he got met with......go away or I report you for racism, no racial words were said, he simply said.....mate I'm in front of you you overtook me when you shouldn't have.


Shall we get to the Kurdish lad who had a row with a Bangladeshi lad resulting in him flashing a knife at the Bangladeshi lad to basically say go away if you want to live, this got reported and both are still out there driving, had it been me flashing a blade at the Bangladeshi driver I wouldn't have a license now, so if you must flash race cards around, flash them at the correct persons in future because you like many others have limited experience of the creeds and don';t really know what goes on.


You think I'm a racist and you banned me from here for it at one time, but if you notice I speak for all sides when I comment, hardly what you would call a racist is it, perhaps I'm the goood racist eh, or a part time racist even, no, what I am is a person who sees, who judges by what he sees, no good man would ever come to harm on my shift regardless of who he is, but I reserve the right to speak when I see blatant liberty taking hidden behind the protective arm of the law.


Now please don't get the hump about that, look at it objectively and realise all that squinnies isn't always the victim or honest with the truth.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:38 pm 
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tis a problem the other sunday fair in town taxis no where to go other than square one of my cars and 2 driven by asian drivers sat there police turn up move my non asian driver on but leave the two asian drivers on but apparently there is nothing i can do about it the police insist there is no complaint it would only have been racist if the two asians had been moved on and not the other way round

Racism in the uk is a one way street

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:06 pm 
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tis a problem the other sunday fair in town taxis no where to go other than square one of my cars and 2 driven by asian drivers sat there police turn up move my non asian driver on but leave the two asian drivers on but apparently there is nothing i can do about it the police insist there is no complaint it would only have been racist if the two asians had been moved on and not the other way round

Racism in the uk is a one way street


Just about sums it all up...Screw the natives and give preferential treatment to the Settlers.

But I guess thats how its always been except that the migration is Inwards to the UK and its now Britain thats being colonised by folks from our ex Colonys and other places.


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why is it ppl like yourself continue to wave the card at others,

So are you saying the EDL chap isn't a racist?

And by not coming to court he is thick, as he will not be able to put forward his defence.

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Doom wrote:
why is it ppl like yourself continue to wave the card at others,

So are you saying the EDL chap isn't a racist?

And by not coming to court he is thick, as he will not be able to put forward his defence.



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:33 pm 
Even if he is, isn't it his human right to be so?

There, now my reply is as stupid as the rules that we all seem to have to play by now.

You think because he gives a F**k still about his country that makes him a bad man, well perhaps if someone made you eat something you didn't like every day regardless maybe you'd find yourself not so perfect in your actions, what I'm saying is he might have had a good reason why he went into one but it's not showing in the story, the story reads horrid Englishman beats on poor Muslim for nothing, that might be the case but I somehow doubt it.

I agree he's not helping himself not showing to defend himself, but would you knowing Mr £2000 ph is going to look at the Jury and say.....he's EDL ladies and gents and he's a nasty little white man who beats on innocent little black men for no reason, the way this place is now that will be enough for him to get a life sentence.

I hear it week in week out about .... I got charged £30 last week mate has it gone down this week ..... he took me to plymouth from torquay to get to exeter.

How about we do the sensible thing and tell the general public they can pick and choose who they want to drive them regardless of position on the rank, then the best cabbie will get his effort reflected in his takings, I know this is the case anyway but most don't know it and coutesy says go to the 1st car, I could treble my takings if it was adopted, I'm forever telling ppl to go to the front, nice car, good looking driver, honest face, they can't resist me, I'm Gods ultimate model.


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[quote="Doom"]Even if he is, isn't it his human right to be so?



So if this scumbag raped your daughter you'd think it was his human right to do so?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:13 am 
You missed the point mate, point is he's automatically branded through association, but we still don't know what the Asian said either do we, it does look like he wanted to show him his shirt but nowhere does it call him a rapist does it.

It's what happens when your creed burns poppies on British soil, whether you did it or not doesn't get considered, it's called getting tar brushed, but the general feeling now is that the British are second class in their own country, until a PM grows a pair and levels it all up so one doesn't get preferrential treatment all the time then fuel for this young man is being supplied isn't it, I don't want to see innocent ppl getting attacked, but I also think it very unfair when someone born here waits 10 years for housing and then someone here ten days gets one in front of them, so consider those that tilted things the real guilty party in this, because there is an old rule with children, you don't give one a bag a of sweets unless you are also giving the other the same, wait until the shoes arrive for you to wear, I bet your tune will change then won't it, and there will be no point going to a court whinging if Sharia Law ever gets introduced, you'll see the unwanted hand that awaits to slap you then, then you'll be blaming everyone else for it happening, along with another 40 million other mutes that this once proud and upstanding country has produced recently.

Want proof, BBC iPlayer, question time tonight, Alexi Sayle sat there and suggested Britain and Argentina share the Falklands, ok nice idea, but not if your Welsh and have half your face missing due to a missile hitting your ship 30 years ago, then there's the Labour and Tory MP's on there, the Tory looks like Thatcher and you can see she's hoping to become Thatcher, the Labour guy was a typical Labour man blaming the Tories for reducing the armed forces when it was his party that skinted us and caused the cutbacks, the National Trust guy seemed ok and the Liberal girl was as usual Liberals are sitting there dodging the question if it's anything they were responsible for, so out of 5 panelist only one came out of it credible, that's where we are, oh and the Labour guy is another bleeding Jock so it looks like more of the same for NuNu Labour doesn't it.

Now there's a bit of info for you to eat and swallow, that is how it is and many ppl aren't happy about it, and if the truth is known the establishment are playing devils advocate, on one hand they say don't do this and on the other they've killed a ton of Muslims, and if the real truth is known they are trying to rid the UK of the British so they can command over people who they think they will be able to bully about in 50 yrs time, well they got that wrong because I've yet to meet an immigrant whose a carpet and eventually they will find themselves ousted by these people, and by the very laws they've introduced to try and drive us out.

So get yer blinkers off and have a look around, if you want to see the end of this young mans type then only a fair and level field is going to achieve that, and if you still can't understand go to Asda and wait in a queue, then see how you feel when a load of other people bunk infront of you, because that is his mindset of how he feels, and people like yourself created him by either not standing up or putting your own down as guilty all the time.


p.s I have lots of Muslims around me, we talk, because talking achieves things, and you'd be really surprised who they don't like, and it's not us either.


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the EDL is a racist organisation the thing is though in this day and age why is it totally unacceptable to have such views I perasonally think that the political debate needs more balance so an organisation like the EDL is providing a different view point BUT this does not imply the right to be abusive and that is the point these people need to take on board

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Even if he is, isn't it his human right to be so?

Oh dear. :sad:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:49 pm 
@ edders, who told you the EDL are racist, was it the same fella who said the same about the BNP some 20 years ago, y'know the fella from the mainstream whose frightened that his easy number could end if folks started voting alternative, lets write it easy, any person has as much right to actually be a racist as the next man has the right to not be, he doesn't have the right to beat on ppl for no reason though, but throughout this "victim" has been found totally innocent by all those prepared to listen to just one side of things.

This is the point to my replies, too many ppl who don't look properly, the same old they say attitude, the controlled response.

@ Sussex, that line you've so typically selected is a pee take statement y'know, highlighting how stupid this whole HR/PC thing is, interpretation is a large book, so what's good for the goose is good for the gander, so back to bed with you because the excitement isn't good for you is it.


And finally, where are you two when the extreme muslim is pounding the street's blowing up buses etc, nowhere to be seen are you, nothing to say either, you condemn one but say nothing about the other, how typically modern British of you.


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i cant condone individual selection, thuggery and picking on 1 (or any group of) ethnic or religious communities, but the support of a way of life "one England" on a nationalist basis - with a worry that we wont have an England soon - i would support, immigrants dont integrate, they wish to dominate.

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