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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:36 am 
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Dear FairFuelUK Supporter

Petrol and diesel have dominated the news headlines over the last few days. This email update is to let you know our take on the situation and to ask you for a little help.

Here is how we see it:

1. The real ‘fuel crisis’ is not the current particular dispute between the tanker drivers and their employers. Important as it is to see this dispute resolved fairly and quickly, the real ‘fuel crisis’ is the scandalously high price that families and businesses are having to pay for petrol & diesel. This will be made worse by the fact that the Government waived through in the Budget another 16p a gallon in fuel taxes to hit us all this summer.

2. The reaction to the possible disruption to fuel supplies has surely showed the Government one thing …. PETROL & DIESEL ARE ABSOLUTELY VITAL TO FAMILIES, BUSINESSES AND THE ENTIRE ECONOMY. Our argument is that forcing up prices by increasing fuel duty is hurting families, damaging business and holding back growth. All our polling shows that fuel tax is the nation’s number 1 priority and recent figures have showed that Britain’s economy is hardly growing at all. The Government is investing hundreds of millions of pounds in ‘job creation’ to fight unemployment. As well as truly understanding the suffering that high petrol & diesel prices are causing, they need to listen to our research which clearly shows that CUTTING FUEL DUTY is the most effective way of creating jobs and boosting growth. If you have not done so already, please see the evidence at http://fairfueluk.com/cebr.html


Some people have asked why FairFuelUK doesn’t support the idea of hauliers and farmers ‘blockading’ refineries and stopping the flow of fuel to protest about high prices. Please go to this link for a review of the Campaign’s position.

Over the next few weeks, we will be fighting in Parliament to see the 16p a gallon increase, waived through in the Budget speech, scrapped and to make the Government see that it should be cutting fuel duty, not raising it!

We need your help to give us the power to make the politicians listen. We are fortunate to be supported by the RAC, the Road Haulage Association, the Freight Transport Association and The Fuelcard Company. On top of that, we have over 235,000 individual supporters like you. That figure of 235,000 is impressive – but it needs to be so much higher! This is where we need your help. There are 30 million motorists in the country. We need to spread the word to those millions of potential supporters that they don’t need to go and ‘blockade’. What they need to do is sign up to www.fairfueluk.com so that the Government realise they are facing a massive and growing movement of public opinion.

Please, as a matter of urgency do these three simple things:

1. Please ask everyone you know to sign up to www.fairfuleuk.com – every extra signup (it’s free and only takes a few seconds) really does make our argument more powerful. There’s a simple copy and paste email below that you can send to your address book.

2. Help us spread word of the campaign by a powerful showing of our ‘CUT FUEL DUTY NOW’ sticker campaign. You can order them here http://fairfueluk.com/sticker___donations.html

3. Please post your experiences and comments on our blog at http://fairfueluk.com/quentins_blog.php so that we can see how the price of petrol & diesel are affecting you.

We had some success last year defeating over 9p per litre of rises in fuel duty. We were hugely disappointed that the chancellor ignored our calls in the recent Budget but with your help and support, the fight goes on!

Kind regards,

The FairFuelUK Team

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:37 pm 
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If every employed trucker, and every haulage firm, from a Tesco driver to Eddie Stobarts whole fleet took a whole week off, this country would grind to a halt halfway through, food would vanish off supermarket shelves, there would be no fuel at any garage, there arent enough service personnel drivers (army/air force) to make a dent in the thousands of daytime/nighttime deliveries across the country

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:27 pm 
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Yep that wondrous invention of the post war period just in time i.e. never carry any more stock than you need to cause its tying up capital which means that even though we think theres loads there isn't its all up the supply chain

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:28 pm 
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By the way is anybody on here still able to get diesel for less than £1.50 a litre

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:30 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
By the way is anybody on here still able to get diesel for less than £1.50 a litre

Yes.

Asda 144.7

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:33 pm 
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Just a thought: These are very rough, back of the envelope, calculations.

Fuel duty is currently 56p per litre.

For every 5p you wish to reduce that, in order to replace the Revenue that our Government raises which it would have to do, it will be necessary to increase VAT by slightly over 1%.

"You makes your choice and then pays-up the money."

By the way ~ It would be socially unacceptable to raise this money via Income Tax. e.g. Soaking the rich is not an available option, as to put it simply, there are not enough of them to raise the kind of money needed. You would need to hit all those that earn over £20,000 p.a.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:11 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
edders23 wrote:
By the way is anybody on here still able to get diesel for less than £1.50 a litre

Yes.

Asda 144.7


Asda 143.7 here. A few at 143.9 and most around 145.9.

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:59 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Yep that wondrous invention of the post war period just in time i.e. never carry any more stock than you need to cause its tying up capital which means that even though we think theres loads there isn't its all up the supply chain


its not just the capital

a big supermarket would lose 1/2rd of its retail space if they needed to hold a months stock

so instead they dont hold stock, plus (and I used to work in a Tesco distribution centre) the suppliers deliveries to the "warehouse" is in and out within hours, we used to have 200 artics in a 22 hour period, 20 loading bays, all timed deliveries, a huge place but no stock held, in one end, straight out the other

its the suppliers who do storage now, plus the space on trailers in motion

another interesting point, a big store chain will pay an invoice on 30, 60 or 90 days for goods, when those goods have been delivered, distributed, put on shelves and sold (no credit there) within days, thats money earning the store interest for upto three months.... nice work if you can get it

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:45 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
By the way is anybody on here still able to get diesel for less than £1.50 a litre


140.9 at sainsburys
144.7 Asda
145.9 Esso
146.9 Shell
151.9 Bloody BP


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:09 am 
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edders23 wrote:
By the way is anybody on here still able to get diesel for less than £1.50 a litre


Yes, I haven't seen it for more than 147.9

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:14 am 
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I paid £143.9 this afternoon at Esso

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:46 pm 
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Looks like our area is the most expensive in the country then :sad: although Morrisons has come down to 148.9 now

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 Post subject: Re: Fuel
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:53 pm 
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Can Still buy Diesel at 141.9 at our local Sainsburys.

But by some odd quirk our Local Esso has both Petrol and Diesel at 145.9 :-k


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:16 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
Can Still buy Diesel at 141.9 at our local Sainsburys.

But by some odd quirk our Local Esso has both Petrol and Diesel at 145.9 :-k


You'll be pleased to note that wee emperor eck wants Scotland to be more like Norway....perhaps the only country in Europe with higher fuel costs than the UK;

Country...............Unleaded 95...........Diesel...........LPG LPG

United Kingdom.....€ 1,758................€ 1,806..........€ 1,023
Norway................€ 2,071...............€ 1,881...........€ 0,893

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captain cab wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Can Still buy Diesel at 141.9 at our local Sainsburys.

But by some odd quirk our Local Esso has both Petrol and Diesel at 145.9 :-k


You'll be pleased to note that wee emperor eck wants Scotland to be more like Norway....perhaps the only country in Europe with higher fuel costs than the UK;

Country...............Unleaded 95...........Diesel...........LPG LPG

United Kingdom.....€ 1,758................€ 1,806..........€ 1,023
Norway................€ 2,071...............€ 1,881...........€ 0,893


That's because they are still repaying Scottish borders council the money they owe from the bank fiasco


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