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Has any one heard anything about the salloon plates that are up for licencing in dundee i heard u can pay your money and get on the list...

there is loads of different gossip going around best phone 434202 and ask the council direct, a few individuals are claiming to have applied for saloon plates and that the council have accepted their money but it still doesnt mean they are going to be issued, the council will let anyone pay their money and take a chance

I think they'll be disappointed - 203020 got saloon plates because that was the policy in place at the time of the application.

But it'll be interesting to see what 203020 does with the plates it doesn't want, because they won't need 71, surely

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the problem could be the courts dundee private hire won their plates as there was no survey in place at the time dundee,s waiting list stretched back 13 years there was no survey for most of it plus the council refused anyone a chance of a hearing bit of a legal minefield if you ask me as you say dundee ph will not need 71 plates they handed back half their mercs because they didn,t need them every office has its limits most are running at full flow right now i was sitting on the main rank tonight 9 cars four dundee private hire all comparing the dents they have occured im thinking of doing a course on body repairs and applying for a full time job at dundee private hire id be run off my feet

I think thats all bye-the-bye now.

Anyone could have applied for a plate and gotten a hearing as far as I know, but no one ever did it. I don't think the council actually refused anyone a hearing.

I think it was just when 203020 come on the go that they got lawyers to have a look at things and discovered that they could have a hearing if the submitted a form and turned up in front of the committee.

Since no one did that beforehand then even if there was no survey then there was nothing to appeal agains because there was no proper application.

Is there any evidence that the council refused to give anyone a hearing?

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any evidence? how about not a single application in thirteen years? although 500 people put their names on the illegal waiting (sorry not legal) list come on council error at its best not the stuff you want in any court what you are saying is all 500 100 per cent of the waiting list all got it wrong and didnt ask to be heard at a meeting no court would believe that, dundee council refused to hear any application fot the last thirteen years and that itself could cause trouble if anyone decided to go to court it only takes one to go to court and all 500 get a saloon plate it was dundee private hire,s solicitor who made it knowledge that the council had to accept your money and give you a fair hearing but what about my fair hearing 9 years ago when there was no survey in place?when i went down 9 years ago i was told as were the other 500 we cant accept your money as there is a waiting list put your name and wait your turn which now has been exposed as a farce
with the council admitting that half the plates were hired out thus illegal ops jumping the queue and now another 71 jumping it id fancy my chances but at the end of the day i reckon itl be all hacks wheelchair
its the only way the council can turn now it would also be interesting to see if any other town which has a council going by the books which hasn,t had an application in13 years?

I hear what your saying mr wav, but is there any actual evidence that the council did anything wrong?

For example, did anyone write the council a letter and the reply said that that they weren't allowed to submit an application?

I agree that the whole thing stinks but i'm not so sure if there is any evidence to support a court case.

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of course there was no letters as the 500 applicants were under the impression that they had to wait their turn even the dta refered to the waiting list when dundee private hire applied for their plates and if im not wrong the council mentioned in a recorded meeting that one of the objections against dundee private hire obtaining the plates was that they were not on the waiting list this was a mistake as you do not have to be on the waiting list it is also the same mistake that the council made every time the 500 applicants went down to apply for their plates admitting to the existence of the waiting list plus arguing to someone not being on it only adds to the evidence whats the point of having the list when you are prepared to accept any applicant s money who walks through the door,
it simply does,t add up the figures alone 13 years without a single taxi lisence going before dundee lisencing comitee now multiple figures every meeting the council dont have a leg to stand on all wav 2006

dundonian i just noticed your little pic of the bridge very nice im not on the other side much i grudge the 80p and i think fifes crap (tayport newport) there so boring they dont even have drug addicts or beggars
im going to add my own pic soon im trying to get a good pic of the law (extint volcano) but there is too many couples engaging on it just now must be the weather and high alltitude
im not trying to argue with you on my posts im just trying to show that
there is a lot more going on than most know too many people sit back and think its okay were safe but as usual they are wrong remember the 99 per cent who said at the time 203020 had no chance of winning their plates?dundee,s situation is like no other city regarding what has gone on in the last 9 years but i think it will eventually work its way out its just a matter of sticking it out

First thing there was surveys,two in fact,but the third was too late and this opened the case for 203020,s appeal,of which they have won.
They have a month to submit their vehicles(well the ordinary punter has),be interesting if they come under this ruling.
The company are struggling for drivers,although they seem to have drivers that are good at pranging the vehicles.
May be better to put on all dodgem cars for the new 71 new plates.
Think they may sort the bumped TX11 and put them through as part of the
71 new plates,then add a furher 20-30 saloons.
This will give all their fleet,trading as new saloon type plates,then sell the company to Glasgow/Edinburgh outfit.
The concept of this 203020 company when they first started was very good,but instead of building it slowly and properly,they wanted to take everything in site and at the same time annoy the trade,of which the latter fell for it,line,hook and sinker.
If they lose the hospital contract,of which is likely and the taxi card scheme is opened for all cabs,then it will be interesting how they cope.
Outside money will have to be invested in this company,as I do not think the local backers are willing to see their money going down the tubes.
Certainly gets the trade talking and the rumours flying.
Be Happy.
Blinkered driver.

If 203020 cant get enough drivers for the tx2s how the hell is he going to get drivers for the saloons hes won i think in the end the market will level out and the gossip is now that if any of you put another car on its got to be wheelchair accessible seems pretty fair if you ask me lets all be the same legally and stop all the bitching.

Unless the council specifically misled you in so far as they told you that you couldn't make an application are they refused to accept applications and you have proof of this then I doubt if you can do much about it. There's a difference between everyone being under the impression that you couldn't pay your money and apply and the council actively misleading people.

I know the whole thing stinks and its unfair, but being able to take legal action against it is a different matter.

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Do you mean the article in Thursdays Courier?

That said that they had to comly with the euro-whatever, and this would mean only the E7 and TXs and the Doblos would be a big no-no.

The article wasn't clear, but I think it only referred to the new plates and not the old saloons - the saloon plates wont' give that up so easily.

The article read like the council had won something out of the trade, but what it really seemed like was that the saloon plates had managed to persuade the council to make the new plates eurowhatever only, and thus keep the numbers down.

Of course, Davy Young fully supported this, and he said this before when they put the TXs on, but of course that does'nt stop them putting more saloons on.

Whenever any of these people open their mouths about wheelchair accessability it's just about them, the disabled are just there to help their case.

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Noticed that the three types of wheelchair accessible were,the TX11.E7 and the metrocab.
The latter has gone to the wall,three times I recall.
Dave Young only wants the TX11,s as he is now selling second hand ones out of the Marrs garage.
No doubt earning a pretty penny.
What about the Eurobus,Doblo and the Citreon that has been passed for the WAV market.
How can the council stop this?
Only way is for the council to legislate that the three EU type vehicles,will be the only ones that can be put on from say year 2009.
£23,550 plus for a new wav,lotta bucks lads.

the decision as to which vehicles are accepted is to go before the comitee this thursday if they do decide to only accept e7,s tx11, metro cab then it could be brought in from this month its only a matter of adding a condition to any future applicants licence a few will moan that the others got fiats, eurobuses but the fiats, eurobuses say the same about the saloon owners it,s all about council policy at the time the plate is granted
the council haven,t to my knowledge given a reason for the change in policy but because they gave permission only twelve months ago and are now changing it sounds to me like they now know the fiats, eurobuses shouldn,t have been licenced in the first place the council will have two choices let the operators pay off their cabs ( five years finance for eurobuses) or pay them off for them