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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:36 pm 
Y'know what TT you make me laugh tbh, you're one of those rebel in a duvet types aren't you?

You moan on one hand the law does nothing, then scream when they do, how about if Ian had been an Afro guy called Denzil would you be so outraged then? NO, I didn't think so either cos he'd just be one of those that was asking for it wouldn't he?

How about we not have a police force, you can enjoy coming home to a wrecked house and getting your gary glitter shaft inspected regularly then, would that be a better world to live in?

What you want is a police force that serves only you when only you need it, the rest of the time they are simply the pigs aren't they,

If you wanna be a gangster type step up to it and be one, then you can be justified in your hate of the law because you will never call them for assistance, beware though, being a gang boy means you live the double edged sword life, always looking over your shoulder, not having any trust in anyone, and maybe just maybe have to take someone out,

But something tells me you are simply a guy who likes to be heard when there are plenty of people around but walks down the road in silence with his head slumped forwards when alone, praying nobody comes looking to do you harm,


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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:54 pm 
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Y'know what TT you make me laugh tbh, you're one of those rebel in a duvet types aren't you?

You moan on one hand the law does nothing, then scream when they do, how about if Ian had been an Afro guy called Denzil would you be so outraged then? NO, I didn't think so either cos he'd just be one of those that was asking for it wouldn't he?

How about we not have a police force, you can enjoy coming home to a wrecked house and getting your gary glitter shaft inspected regularly then, would that be a better world to live in?

What you want is a police force that serves only you when only you need it, the rest of the time they are simply the pigs aren't they,

If you wanna be a gangster type step up to it and be one, then you can be justified in your hate of the law because you will never call them for assistance, beware though, being a gang boy means you live the double edged sword life, always looking over your shoulder, not having any trust in anyone, and maybe just maybe have to take someone out,

But something tells me you are simply a guy who likes to be heard when there are plenty of people around but walks down the road in silence with his head

slumped forwards when alone, praying nobody comes looking to do you harm,


Am I right?


Doom i respect you and your opinions so i will answer your questions.

I expect a Police service to be fair honest and openhanded, they clearly are a necessity within any civilised society, unfortunately in london their effing racist scum, crooked and corrupt take bribes regularly [Murdoch] lie under oath and fit people up as a matter of course, are vigorously anti working class and anti Union in effect followers of **** ideology effing SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All I require is a honest dedicated Police service!

Me walk away from issues nah MATE I cut me teeth early at the St Pancras rent riots in1960, then went though all anti Vietnam demos including Grosvenor Square in 68 [watch it on google] then in the miners dispute I drove hundreds of miles to support the strikers and deal with the SCABS then there was Wapping and the poll Tax shenanigans last year I helped out with Students and of course the UK uncut activities, this year its October the 26th i believe and guess what i will be there!! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:58 pm 
Ok TT I hear ya,

Thing is in all walks there are good and bad, honest and corrupt, it's just when I read people giving the Police as a whole a hard time out of pure mob rule mindedness I have to say something, it ain't called the thin blue line for nothing is it, and that is the line that keeps you 80% safe rather than 100% in clear and present danger,

Even the hardest lags still have an appreciation for the Police, well the ones who still use the code do anyway, and the Police kinda see then as a community support thing in a way, they know they ain't getting any info on anyone, but they also know if someone is out of line or has commited one of the crimes that even the Krays would help with that the top boys will sort it one way or another, bit of a win win in a way,

The cop who got off I admit has a bit of a suspect past, but in this instance I don't think he killed Ian, he may well have helped bring something forwards a bit, but it doesn't look like he intended him harm, it looks like a simple g-won f'off shove to me, that one wasn't supposed to dump him on the floor, and two, had no intent to endanger life, and I believe this is what he was on trial for, and if you look Ian wasn't as innocent as it's been made out, he's clearly loitering and also isn't in any hurry to move, someone on their way home wouldn't be doing just that, unless the attack that killed him had already started prior to him getting shoved, which looking at him sitting up doesn't look like the case to me.

I like the giggle factor in your postings, but you have to remember it does influence other's and what may seem like a harmless joke becomes something that escalates, so try not to tar brush people who do a hard job anyway, if you want to open season on politics and moguls then go ahead, they really do deserve the bad press.


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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:26 pm 
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I find myself agreeing with Doom.

I don't think that he killed Ian and that the attack, for that is what I saw, probably exacerbated an already critical condition, he certainly didn't intend to kill him.

The thing that appals me is that he was still in the Met.

The time has come to stop Coppers avoiding censure by going on Sick Leave or taking Early Retirement. Too many of the Force's Black Sheep have avoided a stain on their Record by taking those types of evasion. It should no longer be allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:29 pm 
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Doom todays Daily Mirror;

Nearly 800 filthy's resign from police forces nationwide since 2008 to avoid losing their pensions because their on criminal charges for WAIT for it

Sexual Assort.Serious Assault. violent attacks. perjury, corruption and fraud!!! nice eh the info was obtained by Freedom of Information requests 23 of 47 Police forces responded so clearly that figure is low, strangely if a filthy is convicted of any of the above they keep their pension can you believe it ??

The police who murderd Ian had a long History of misbehaviour and violence his attack was uncalled for and illegal he should be banged up for life, had you pushed filthy over and he'd died you would never get out!!

Lets get it straight the Filthy's currently deserve their title F i l t h ; we all want an honest trustworthy Police service currently their an EFFING disgrace! :D :D as this case very clearly demonstrates and of course it proves CONCLUSIVELY that the system can be manipulated by the ESTABLISHMENT and that they will manipulate it when it suits their cause!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:40 pm 
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trotskys twin wrote:
Doom todays Daily Mirror;

Nearly 800 filthy's resign from police forces nationwide since 2008 to avoid losing their pensions because their on criminal charges for WAIT for it

Sexual Assort.Serious Assault. violent attacks. perjury, corruption and fraud!!! nice eh the info was obtained by Freedom of Information requests 23 of 47 Police forces responded so clearly that figure is low, strangely if a filthy is convicted of any of the above they keep their pension can you believe it ??


That is a bit of a contradiction isn't it? First you say that they resign to avoid losing their pensions and then you say that even if convicted, they keep their pensions. :?

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:02 pm 
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grandad wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
Doom todays Daily Mirror;

Nearly 800 filthy's resign from police forces nationwide since 2008 to avoid losing their pensions because their on criminal charges for WAIT for it

Sexual Assort.Serious Assault. violent attacks. perjury, corruption and fraud!!! nice eh the info was obtained by Freedom of Information requests 23 of 47 Police forces responded so clearly that figure is low, strangely if a filthy is convicted of any of the above they keep their pension can you believe it ??


That is a bit of a contradiction isn't it? First you say that they resign to avoid losing their pensions and then you say that even if convicted, they keep their pensions. :?


Maybe the unions struck a deal so they get to keep their pensions or % of their pensions so their families don't suffer as a consequence of their criminal acts

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:22 pm 
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grandad clearly yer a moron get nicked whilst in the feelth you lose yer pension, already done a runner yer keep it! comprehendo ?????? :badgrin:

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:24 pm 
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toots wrote:
grandad wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
Doom todays Daily Mirror;

Nearly 800 filthy's resign from police forces nationwide since 2008 to avoid losing their pensions because their on criminal charges for WAIT for it

Sexual Assort.Serious Assault. violent attacks. perjury, corruption and fraud!!! nice eh the info was obtained by Freedom of Information requests 23 of 47 Police forces responded so clearly that figure is low, strangely if a filthy is convicted of any of the above they keep their pension can you believe it ??


That is a bit of a contradiction isn't it? First you say that they resign to avoid losing their pensions and then you say that even if convicted, they keep their pensions. :?


Maybe the unions struck a deal so they get to keep their pensions or % of their pensions so their families don't suffer as a consequence of their criminal acts

Quite likely toots !!

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
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trotskys twin wrote:
grandad clearly yer a moron get nicked whilst in the feelth you lose yer pension, already done a runner yer keep it! comprehendo ?????? :badgrin:

That is not what you posted though is it? Stupid!

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:23 am 
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Nearly 800 filthy's resign from police forces nationwide since 2008 to avoid losing their pensions because their on criminal charges for WAIT for it

If a union member was to lose his pension if he was convicted of a crime, surely his union would advise he resigned instead of losing it?

Or would they say stay and lose the lot? :?

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 Post subject: Re: If He'd Survived
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:38 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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Nearly 800 filthy's resign from police forces nationwide since 2008 to avoid losing their pensions because their on criminal charges for WAIT for it

If a union member was to lose his pension if he was convicted of a crime, surely his union would advise he resigned instead of losing it?

Or would they say stay and lose the lot? :?


They would I suspect say "dont commit the crime " particularly if you are a police Officer who has taken all sorts of Oaths [no not those down the lodge] :badgrin:

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