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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:13 am 
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In your view maybe ,i dont . If that was the case why would you not join the opposition with cheaper fares ? Good luck whatever you do its dog eat dog out there


well i nearly did but i met the owner and i didnt like him or how much he charged for the pleasure of driving for him.

its just my oppinion mate i hear your argument and i think we cud be slightly cheaper and get more work.it wont hqappen at the company i work for


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:10 am 
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Do the opposition advertise heavily? How much is it for a set with the opposition?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:17 pm 
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yes the oppisition are much more savvy than us,they are innovative and forward thinking but no more than you would expect.
they have advertised them selves as cheaper than anyone else and the public believe them.they are slightly cheaper and have a massive customer base most of which was once ours.they start theyre meters 30p lower than us and have no tarriff 3 except over xmas and new year when stupidly we have tarriff 4.i cant tell you how many times you go to a job say when its raining and the customer has only called us because the other company has a waiting time,or you are sat waiting for a job and i mean waiting when you see one of they re cars plot up and 5 mins later off they go.i have actually had to move without getting a job as the same car reappeared 3 times.
the downside to that company is the owner is ruthless and he can fire you for nothing and it costs about £230 a week to work there compared to our 465 a month.We have 200 cars them allegedly 100.alot more newr vehicle are appearing on there whilst our fleet gets older WHY???????

we have a great company with good drivers and a good selection of differernt vehicles the infrastructure is in place.blah blah blah it wont happen at our company as drivers think cheaper is less.

our directors are incapable of having a good idea and some of them just hide theyre head in the sand and hope the opposittion go away.we actually spent £60,000 on V.I.P cards in the last 2 years which if we were the cheapest we wouldnt need,we spend fortunes on silly free phones in pubs/clubs that last had a customer in them 20 years ago if you are the cheapest and offer the best service NO FREE PHONES ARE NEEDED.
the other lot were first with chip and pin we lost business because we live in the 70s.

as sussex has said id prefer 4 £5 jobs than 2 £6 but no matter how simple this seems people dont get it.the other company have proven that here in blackpool the punters want it for less.....END OF.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:37 pm 
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It sounds to me that there are too many decision makers at the company you work at. Advertising is paramount if you don't advertise you won't increase your customer base it's that simple. You don't need to be the cheapest you need to be best. The best vehicles, the best drivers, the best customer service and the best deals for drivers. It's not rocket science really it's commonsense :wink:

I had a little peep at the website for Premier and it all looks good, even down to the tacky free gifts for customers. It says it all when their fleet is half yours and they are getting the most work. At £230 per week I assume that includes the vehicle? Yours is about £107 per week with 200 cars so that's plenty of revenue for advertising, me thinks somebody is being greedy but having said that if there are a lot of shareholders there are a lot of mouths to feed. Imo Blackpool ph is in need of a serious shake up and Premier has started shaking.

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no it doesnt include the vehicle and believe me the only reason theyre getting alot of work is that they are 30p cheaper.they have a lot of poles and other foreigners working and in general have a bad rep but that just proves its all about how much you charege


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no it doesnt include the vehicle and believe me the only reason theyre getting alot of work is that they are 30p cheaper.they have a lot of poles and other foreigners working and in general have a bad rep but that just proves its all about how much you charege


So drivers pay £230 per week for a radio set? Provide nicer, cleaner cars and earn less because they are cheaper :? If that is the case it's simple. Set up a company with the same rates as Premier and charge the drivers £100 per week, therein lies your solution :wink:

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he can fire you for nothing and it costs about £230 a week to work there compared to our 465 a month.We have 200 cars them allegedly 100.alot more newr vehicle are appearing on there whilst our fleet gets older WHY???????


£93,000 a month ..... =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

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tangarinearmy wrote:
no it doesnt include the vehicle and believe me the only reason theyre getting alot of work is that they are 30p cheaper.they have a lot of poles and other foreigners working and in general have a bad rep but that just proves its all about how much you charege


So drivers pay £230 per week for a radio set? Provide nicer, cleaner cars and earn less because they are cheaper :? If that is the case it's simple. Set up a company with the same rates as Premier and charge the drivers £100 per week, therein lies your solution :wink:


No, set up a co-op with 50 drivers all chucking £500 in the hat and no base rent till its needed

groups of owners fail to realise what collective power and funds they have, it always used to be that anyone with just FIVE cars may as well go independent, rather than rent a radio

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:43 pm 
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toots wrote:
tangarinearmy wrote:
no it doesnt include the vehicle and believe me the only reason theyre getting alot of work is that they are 30p cheaper.they have a lot of poles and other foreigners working and in general have a bad rep but that just proves its all about how much you charege


So drivers pay £230 per week for a radio set? Provide nicer, cleaner cars and earn less because they are cheaper :? If that is the case it's simple. Set up a company with the same rates as Premier and charge the drivers £100 per week, therein lies your solution :wink:



i think thats what ive been saying all along except we could blow them away by being cheaper.

and i have never said anywhere thay earn less that would kind of destroy my argument nor have i ever said they provide cleaner cars they dont.i HAVE said that new vehicles are turning up on there fleet and not on ours perhaps because there drivers are more confident about paying a loan back than ours.


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wannabeeahack wrote:
toots wrote:
tangarinearmy wrote:
no it doesnt include the vehicle and believe me the only reason theyre getting alot of work is that they are 30p cheaper.they have a lot of poles and other foreigners working and in general have a bad rep but that just proves its all about how much you charege


So drivers pay £230 per week for a radio set? Provide nicer, cleaner cars and earn less because they are cheaper :? If that is the case it's simple. Set up a company with the same rates as Premier and charge the drivers £100 per week, therein lies your solution :wink:


No, set up a co-op with 50 drivers all chucking £500 in the hat and no base rent till its needed

groups of owners fail to realise what collective power and funds they have, it always used to be that anyone with just FIVE cars may as well go independent, rather than rent a radio



this is more along the lines to what i have been thinking.


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It's not just the 30p on the start price (tariff 1), you also get further for each 20p.

Their weekly fees start around £150ish I think. It's done based on the age of the vehicle. So a brand new car pays less than a 4 year old car. It goes up on the anniversary of the 1st registration date on the log book. They have an age limit of 7 years for the vehicles (that might only be for the saloon PHV cars which covers the majority of their fleet).


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tangarinearmy wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:

No, set up a co-op with 50 drivers all chucking £500 in the hat and no base rent till its needed

groups of owners fail to realise what collective power and funds they have, it always used to be that anyone with just FIVE cars may as well go independent, rather than rent a radio



this is more along the lines to what i have been thinking.


I wouldn't touch a co-op set up, I thought about it but it ends up with too many opinions and not enough decisions imo. A fair system with benefits for the drivers is more where I'd go.

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Cerberus wrote:
It's not just the 30p on the start price (tariff 1), you also get further for each 20p.

Their weekly fees start around £150ish I think. It's done based on the age of the vehicle. So a brand new car pays less than a 4 year old car. It goes up on the anniversary of the 1st registration date on the log book. They have an age limit of 7 years for the vehicles (that might only be for the saloon PHV cars which covers the majority of their fleet).

probably true but 1 of our directors is adamant that they start cheaper but dont finish cheaper goes to show how out of touch he is.you would need a brand new car for his cheapest fees and the vast majority arnt.i believe the 7 year limit has been scrapped he now happily takes more money.


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Cerberus wrote:
Their weekly fees start around £150ish I think. It's done based on the age of the vehicle. So a brand new car pays less than a 4 year old car. It goes up on the anniversary of the 1st registration date on the log book.

Never come across that, but it is an interesting way of doing it.

Down here I would be paying next to f*** all, and all the office rust buckets would be paying £100s. \:D/

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toots wrote:
tangarinearmy wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:

No, set up a co-op with 50 drivers all chucking £500 in the hat and no base rent till its needed

groups of owners fail to realise what collective power and funds they have, it always used to be that anyone with just FIVE cars may as well go independent, rather than rent a radio



this is more along the lines to what i have been thinking.


I wouldn't touch a co-op set up, I thought about it but it ends up with too many opinions and not enough decisions imo. A fair system with benefits for the drivers is more where I'd go.


It has to be a Ltd company from day 1, the investors need to be directors, there has to be a firm policy of how it is run, it can work and be cheaper than £450 a month.....for sure

base owners like to make it look so hard an involved to, er....rent an office and talk into a mic?....oh, and put tenders in

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