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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:20 am 
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Dundee cabbies hit out at ‘nasty’ bus drivers


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Police are targeting cabbies in Dundee city centre following “confrontations” with bus drivers.

Rising tensions over a lack of rank space has seen city centre stand-offs, with cabbies angry that bus drivers are taking pictures of their cars with mobile phones.

Unmarked cars are now patrolling Nethergate and warnings are issued to taxi drivers parked illegally. More than 50 cabbies have been cautioned since the crackdown began at the turn of the year.

Robert Griffin, who has been running a taxi for 40 years, said: “It’s pandemonium here most days. Half the time we have to line up on the other side of the road but then the bus drivers go off their heads at us.”

Chris Curran, who has been driving taxis for 20 years, said: “There have been quite a few confrontations with bus drivers, mostly trading insults. It’s pure nastiness.

“They also take pictures of us and report us. I can understand the bus drivers’ point of view but they’re salaried. We’re just trying to make a living and we need to get hires.”

Taxi driver Margaret Duncan was cautioned last week. She said: “The police have been coming down to Nethergate in unmarked cars. On Friday they were issuing warnings.”

Cabbies have called on the council to create more bays for their cars so that they do not have to break the rules. There are more than 600 drivers in Dundee.

Chris Elder, taxi branch secretary of Unite union, who represents 140 full-time drivers in the city, said: “There are drivers verbally shouting at each other but the council is the problem — they’re flooding the town with taxis and not providing enough rank space.”

Bus passengers have warned that illegal parking could compromise their safety.

A pensioner, who asked not to be named, said: “There’s going to be an accident because we have to cut between taxis to get on the bus.”

Another passenger who contacted The Courier anonymously said: “On Tuesday there were three taxis parked at the traffic lights and the bus stop.

“I got on the bus and I could see the anger on the bus driver’s face. He had to stop at the bottom of the bus stop and everyone had to walk to the opposite side.”

A spokesman for Dundee City Council said 56 warnings have been issued since a protocol for dealing with abuse of bus stops was agreed by councillors late last year.

The spokesman added: “Any third offenders will be reported to the licensing committee with a recommendation that their licences be suspended. No one is in this category yet.”

A spokeswoman for National Express Dundee welcomed the crackdown.

She said: “We regularly receive complaints from passengers about taxis blocking the bus stops in Nethergate and we are assisting Dundee City Council in investigating this issue.

“One of the ways our drivers are encouraged to help is by taking photos, when safe to do so, of vehicles which are blocking bus stops as this can provide clear evidence of the problem.”

A police spokeswoman said: “We are aware of the matter and where appropriate, suitable action is taken.”

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/ ... rs-1.83964

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:47 am 
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Dundee cabbies hit out at ‘nasty’ bus drivers


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Dundee taxi driver Chris Curran.

Police are targeting cabbies in Dundee city centre following “confrontations” with bus drivers.

Rising tensions over a lack of rank space has seen city centre stand-offs, with cabbies angry that bus drivers are taking pictures of their cars with mobile phones.

Unmarked cars are now patrolling Nethergate and warnings are issued to taxi drivers parked illegally. More than 50 cabbies have been cautioned since the crackdown began at the turn of the year.

Robert Griffin, who has been running a taxi for 40 years, said: “It’s pandemonium here most days. Half the time we have to line up on the other side of the road but then the bus drivers go off their heads at us.”

Chris Curran, who has been driving taxis for 20 years, said: “There have been quite a few confrontations with bus drivers, mostly trading insults. It’s pure nastiness.

“They also take pictures of us and report us. I can understand the bus drivers’ point of view but they’re salaried. We’re just trying to make a living and we need to get hires.”

Taxi driver Margaret Duncan was cautioned last week. She said: “The police have been coming down to Nethergate in unmarked cars. On Friday they were issuing warnings.”

Cabbies have called on the council to create more bays for their cars so that they do not have to break the rules. There are more than 600 drivers in Dundee.

Chris Elder, taxi branch secretary of Unite union, who represents 140 full-time drivers in the city, said: “There are drivers verbally shouting at each other but the council is the problem — they’re flooding the town with taxis and not providing enough rank space.”

Bus passengers have warned that illegal parking could compromise their safety.

A pensioner, who asked not to be named, said: “There’s going to be an accident because we have to cut between taxis to get on the bus.”

Another passenger who contacted The Courier anonymously said: “On Tuesday there were three taxis parked at the traffic lights and the bus stop.

“I got on the bus and I could see the anger on the bus driver’s face. He had to stop at the bottom of the bus stop and everyone had to walk to the opposite side.”

A spokesman for Dundee City Council said 56 warnings have been issued since a protocol for dealing with abuse of bus stops was agreed by councillors late last year.

The spokesman added: “Any third offenders will be reported to the licensing committee with a recommendation that their licences be suspended. No one is in this category yet.”

A spokeswoman for National Express Dundee welcomed the crackdown.

She said: “We regularly receive complaints from passengers about taxis blocking the bus stops in Nethergate and we are assisting Dundee City Council in investigating this issue.

“One of the ways our drivers are encouraged to help is by taking photos, when safe to do so, of vehicles which are blocking bus stops as this can provide clear evidence of the problem.”

A police spokeswoman said: “We are aware of the matter and where appropriate, suitable action is taken.”

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/ ... rs-1.83964

If the bus driver is taking a photo on his mobile phone whilst sitting behind the wheel with the engine running, he is also committing an offence. So it had better be a proper camera. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 12:47 pm 
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Buses are god like creatures as far as local authorities are concerned, they sit them on a pedestal and worship the false god of perceived environmentalism that buses have become.
Taxis and PH's on the other hand are little more than a necessary evil spawned by Satan to fill the gap between Bus transport and shank's pony. :?


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This sounds like a job for the taxi forum hard men skull, gusmac and skiiman to sort out! :D :D :D :D

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:59 pm 
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Buses are god like creatures as far as local authorities are concerned, they sit them on a pedestal and worship the false god of perceived environmentalism that buses have become.
Taxis and PH's on the other hand are little more than a necessary evil spawned by Satan to fill the gap between Bus transport and shank's pony. :?

King Buses...sounds about right!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:43 am 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
This sounds like a job for the taxi forum hard men skull, gusmac and skiiman to sort out! :D :D :D :D

Gee thanks Artur! the hacks down here have had the same problem recently around the station and the photos were even published! Personally I don't have a problem, being PH I wait where I like, no hastle, can sit in the sun, out of the wind or rain, whatever takes my fancy! :D :D :D and even most of the Parking Enforcement Officers are very tolerant!
But having said that because all the fleets are mixed we do work together most of the time unlike, it would seem, most other areas in the UK.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:18 am 
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Skiman wrote:
can sit in the sun,

Are you taking the pi55?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:25 pm 
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can sit in the sun,

Are you taking the pi55?

NO! it's lovely and sunny in Brighton with 100k people watching the 2nd best marathon in the country! :D :D

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:34 pm 
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Councils continually fail to provide adequate rank space.

Lots of scope for zig zag lines at crossings, which exist to no discernible common standard length.

Double yellow lines. Acres of them.

Even double red lines, whatever they are.

And car parking spaces, councils' nice little earner.

Once again, cabbies are at the bottom of the pile.

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Skiman wrote:
Artur and molshy wrote:
This sounds like a job for the taxi forum hard men skull, gusmac and skiiman to sort out! :D :D :D :D

Gee thanks Artur! the hacks down here have had the same problem recently around the station and the photos were even published! Personally I don't have a problem, being PH I wait where I like, no hastle, can sit in the sun, out of the wind or rain, whatever takes my fancy! :D :D :D and even most of the Parking Enforcement Officers are very tolerant!
But having said that because all the fleets are mixed we do work together most of the time unlike, it would seem, most other areas in the UK.


You're PH skiiman???

This is a forum for proper cabbies.....:-)

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Artur and molshy wrote:
Skiman wrote:
Artur and molshy wrote:
This sounds like a job for the taxi forum hard men skull, gusmac and skiiman to sort out! :D :D :D :D

Gee thanks Artur! the hacks down here have had the same problem recently around the station and the photos were even published! Personally I don't have a problem, being PH I wait where I like, no hastle, can sit in the sun, out of the wind or rain, whatever takes my fancy! :D :D :D and even most of the Parking Enforcement Officers are very tolerant!
But having said that because all the fleets are mixed we do work together most of the time unlike, it would seem, most other areas in the UK.


You're PH skiiman???

This is a forum for proper cabbies.....:-)


B****cks!!! Been there, done it all, have you? :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Also Artur, you and people like you are the reason the trade is in the mess it is, ignore PH at your peril! Would have thought you would have realised that with all the problems you have up your way! :roll: :roll:

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B****cks!!! Been there, done it all, have you? :evil: :evil: :evil:



Shameful Skiiman. Though didn't expect much less.

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B****cks!!! Been there, done it all, have you? :evil: :evil: :evil:



Shameful Skiiman. Though didn't expect much less.

Why is it shameful? There is no part of the trade that I have not been involved in and there are plenty of PH on here are there not? and there is only one i in skiman!

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Skiman wrote:
Artur and molshy wrote:
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B****cks!!! Been there, done it all, have you? :evil: :evil: :evil:



Shameful Skiiman. Though didn't expect much less.

Why is it shameful? There is no part of the trade that I have not been involved in and there are plenty of PH on here are there not? and there is only one i in skiman!


I knew you lacked ambition skiiiman!

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