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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:54 pm 
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So how much is this lease and how many miles per annum are you allowed


Seems its on HP, presumably utd had paid a deposit, (dunno how much) and after 36 months (and payments) he intends to hand the car back under the terms of the agreement

correct, my deposit was trading the Octavia in and i gave another £100 when ordering the car


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:11 am 
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United Taxis 11 wrote:
it is on hire purchase finance, after 2 and a half years i can hand the car back or exchange it for a new car, or just keep it till i pay the full ammount and then then the car is officially mine, i just said i am intending to give the car back to henrys skoda glasgow after 3 years, i don't need to its just i am not willing to pay £21000 for a car

Does it work out any cheaper doing it this way rather than leasing for 3 years?

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 8:26 am 
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grandad wrote:
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it is on hire purchase finance, after 2 and a half years i can hand the car back or exchange it for a new car, or just keep it till i pay the full ammount and then then the car is officially mine, i just said i am intending to give the car back to henrys skoda glasgow after 3 years, i don't need to its just i am not willing to pay £21000 for a car

Does it work out any cheaper doing it this way rather than leasing for 3 years?



It's cheaper because you can off set it against your tax. Loads round here are doing it.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:24 am 
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Cah-flow wise there's little difference in leasing or HP. there's tax differences as you have to allow depreciation on an HP car, whereas lease goes straight off the profit/loss accounbt so I'm told. The end result doesn't alter the price of fish. you still have to allow an amount every week to pay for the car which is a what a lot of folk forget!


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:04 am 
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Nidge2 wrote:
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United Taxis 11 wrote:
it is on hire purchase finance, after 2 and a half years i can hand the car back or exchange it for a new car, or just keep it till i pay the full ammount and then then the car is officially mine, i just said i am intending to give the car back to henrys skoda glasgow after 3 years, i don't need to its just i am not willing to pay £21000 for a car

Does it work out any cheaper doing it this way rather than leasing for 3 years?



It's cheaper because you can off set it against your tax. Loads round here are doing it.

Both are offset against tax. :?

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:11 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
United Taxis 11 wrote:
it is on hire purchase finance, after 2 and a half years i can hand the car back or exchange it for a new car, or just keep it till i pay the full ammount and then then the car is officially mine, i just said i am intending to give the car back to henrys skoda glasgow after 3 years, i don't need to its just i am not willing to pay £21000 for a car

Does it work out any cheaper doing it this way rather than leasing for 3 years?



It's cheaper because you can off set it against your tax. Loads round here are doing it.




mmmm, open to debate, the HP interest isnt tax allowable

the write-down agains tax is over 4 years, though any loss when selling could be tax deductable

i have a clever plan for anyone whose wife doesnt work to see LOTS of tax allowances from 1 vehicle - its not as good as a Google-scam but if your doing £££££££££££££ per week its good for a big saving, otherwise dont bother

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:29 pm 
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Debateable is the right word! 8)


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:47 pm 
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grandad wrote:
United Taxis 11 wrote:
it is on hire purchase finance, after 2 and a half years i can hand the car back or exchange it for a new car, or just keep it till i pay the full ammount and then then the car is officially mine, i just said i am intending to give the car back to henrys skoda glasgow after 3 years, i don't need to its just i am not willing to pay £21000 for a car

Does it work out any cheaper doing it this way rather than leasing for 3 years?

well i was looking at hiring a car aswell for 3 years as it looked very tempting, but the council up here won't allow it i think, so just went and got one through hire purchase finance


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:26 pm 
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Depreciation is done like this


If you lease you claim 100% of your expenditure each year

If you buy a car you claim 20% of what you paid for it minus a personal use

example

Car £10000 to buy

Tax allowance is £2000 minus say 10% pu so you claim for £1800 in year one

Year two is now £8000 minus 10% leaving you £1600 minus £160 resulting in a claim of £1440

Now you sell the car and have claimed £3600 from the £10000

This leaves the car owing you £6400

Now the px is only £5000 so you short by £1400 an you just add that as a capital gains loss that year so you would be putting in the £1440 plus the £1400 for the year i.e £2840 for that year


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:11 am 
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When i was replacing the octavia, i was thinking of just renting a taxi off the office, would have been a general octavia, but then its £100 a week to rent the car then another £72 for radio, so i thought i was just better off getting my own car


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:49 am 
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United Taxis 11 wrote:
When i was replacing the octavia, i was thinking of just renting a taxi off the office, would have been a general octavia, but then its £100 a week to rent the car then another £72 for radio, so i thought i was just better off getting my own car



Not always as you will be need £60pw for a s/h car finance payment at least £25pw insurance if you are the right age history etc £25pw for road tax and plate licence oil an tyres then the £72 radio

at least the £172 is no risk an you can walk away from it at any time


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:21 pm 
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United Taxis 11 wrote:
When i was replacing the octavia, i was thinking of just renting a taxi off the office, would have been a general octavia, but then its £100 a week to rent the car then another £72 for radio, so i thought i was just better off getting my own car

You'd pay twice that here :shock:

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When i was replacing the octavia, i was thinking of just renting a taxi off the office, would have been a general octavia, but then its £100 a week to rent the car then another £72 for radio, so i thought i was just better off getting my own car

You'd pay twice that here :shock:

And here. :sad:

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United Taxis 11 wrote:
When i was replacing the octavia, i was thinking of just renting a taxi off the office, would have been a general octavia, but then its £100 a week to rent the car then another £72 for radio, so i thought i was just better off getting my own car


whats your car monthly payments costing?, what was included in the rental, plate/insurance, was it a "just fuel" rental?

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:09 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
United Taxis 11 wrote:
When i was replacing the octavia, i was thinking of just renting a taxi off the office, would have been a general octavia, but then its £100 a week to rent the car then another £72 for radio, so i thought i was just better off getting my own car


whats your car monthly payments costing?, what was included in the rental, plate/insurance, was it a "just fuel" rental?

my monthly payments for the superb are £341.88, the inclusions for the £172 per week included a 1.9 tdi PD 59 plate octavia hatch,(thats the only kind of car the office rent out),radio, meter, datahead,a taxi plate, all mechanical's, tyres, but you usually have to share a car with an other driver, (the office has about 15 generals and 5 private hires all owned by united taxis) you have to pay your own insurance and then if another driver was on the car i would have to get a little run around car to use while he was driving the taxi, not a good idea and i much prefer having my own car so i decide when i work.


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