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Kenny Mac askil has been quoted as saying ECPH have been given a clean bill of health by the Police, who am I to argue with that.

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

You know if I didn`t know better sure sounds like Les postings under Private Reggie

About sums you up, your out of the debate, game over.

Keep believing though

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

If your happy to work alongside ECPH then good on you because 95% of your collegues at scab cabs are not just shows what a scumbag you are please don't speak to me again I don`t want to be aasosiated with people like you

Yesterday marked the Annual General Meeting of the Scottish Taxi Federation. In his statement about the past year in the trade, Bill Macintosh the STF General Secretary focused very much on developments at Edinburgh Airport. After Glasgow Taxis, Central Taxis & City Cabs are the two largest companies in the STF and it was clear that the committee was anxious to maintain an objective and diplomatic peace between all parties. However, as a prominent figure, campaigner and spokesman for the trade for 30 years, Mr Macintosh expressed his deep concern over the ranking of Private Hire Cars next to Taxis in a public place; having implications that may blur the distinctions between the two tiers of hire vehicles across Scotland going forward.

When the formalities of the meeting were concluded and we moved on to other agenda items, the STF General Secretary proposed a motion to the body of the hall where 11 Scottish Taxi firms were represented on the day. The motion was to provide the full support of the Scottish Taxi Federation to Central Taxis and invest a financial contribution to the legal fees involved in challenging the recent booking office license award to ECPH and their rank set up at Edinburgh Airport. There was overwhelming agreement with Mr Macintosh from the floor and great concern voiced from all of the taxi firms represented. This resulted in a unanimous vote in support of the General Secretaries motion with only one exception; one vote against the motion entered by City Cabs of Edinburgh.

The General Secretary proposed a further motion, putting a suggested figure to the contribution. Another member of the STF committee from Glasgow proposed an amendment to double that figure. The motion for the amended figure passed with a simple majority.

It is regrettable that City Cabs had to stand alone in opposing a motion that every other member company clearly views as fundamentally important to the future of the taxi trade in Scotland. The taxi trade will have to face up to their own in house problems and do more to organise themselves by the way of being honest with each other. This situation would not have been avoided even if CRT had not pulled out of the proposed joint tender bid with City Cabs through the existing and proven track record of FTS. Whatever bid was successful a PHC service had to be provided. It was breaking ground and everyone accepted this as the tender process developed.
Yesterday Central Radio Taxis showed the STF and the eminent Mr Mackintosh, along with the other members, the greatest of disrespect in their one sided hypocritical representation. The current provision of choice of vehicle at the Airport has been there for the last five years and would have continued no matter who won the contract and that is including FTS and CRT. One wonders what the position would be from CRT if they had the rank to themselves or had stayed within the FTS bid. The STF constitution allows for any member to have a 75% public hire / 25% private hire split. The trade has some challenging times ahead and some tough choices to make and in what areas they should look to modernize. Discounting may not be the best option though for some this has clearly been the main objective.
Yes, it is right that a company should appeal against something it feels is wrong but just why CRT are going down this road knowing full well that they were going to provide the exact same service if their bid had been successful is what City Cabs now stand alone challenging .
In effect the STF are financially supporting CRT in their actions because CRT lost out on their tender bid that included the very same service they are now objecting to. City Cabs are disappointed that the STF could not see that. It is now for us to be clear within ourselves just what we are standing for and standing up against.

City Cabs have the Public Hire rank at the Airport for the next five years, possibly seven. We will strive to provide the traveling public with a first class service throughout this period offering a quality vehicle, quality driver and a friendly attitude from the driver. Part of our tender proposal was that although the Public Hire Rank was to be managed by a City Cabs Management team the offer of permits would not be restricted to City Cabs alone but open to all of the Edinburgh Licensed taxi fleet on the condition that the owner of the vehicle agreed to work to the set down Rules and Protocols. Many have taken up this offer. Through providing this quality service we, again, hope to show the way forward for the whole of the Public Hire Trade.

Many of the companies who attended yesterday's meeting are struggling financially and this sum of money should and could have been used in much better ways.

Extract is from the Airport Surface Access Strategy 2012

Taxis
Management of Taxi Rank
Both prior to and during the ASAS consultation the issue of passenger confusion was raised by taxi companies. The present system of two pick-up ranks, one for private hire cars and one for black taxis, has the potential to be confusing for passengers. However, we feel that private hire cars and black taxis both have advantages for different types of journey and therefore we wish to retain the ability for passengers to choose the type of vehicle to travel in.
We shall investigate the feasibility of combining the two ranks at one location, and if this concept is found to be practicable it will be progressed in the near future.

And so the tender process began.
Tuesday 16th October. Notice is given that the FTS contract at the Airport Rank will be terminated on the 14th April 2013
Wednesday 17th October. Pre Qualification Questionnaire is issued to all interested parties. (All parties accept that if they were to be considered they would have to submit plans for a joint fleet)
Monday 22nd October. Central Radio Taxis inform City Cabs that they feel it is in their best interest to submit a bid on their own so they will be pulling out of the FTS bid. Although we were disappointed City Cabs accept this and also prepare their own bid.
Monday 5th November. City Cabs and, I presume, the other successful bidders received notification that their Pre-Tender Questionniare had been accepted and they would now go forward to the full tender process.

All companies progressing to the next stage were invited to tender for the Management of Public and/or Private HIre Passenger Transfer Operation.
At this stage, I again presume, we were all fully aware of what was being asked of us.

City Cabs submitted our tender document on Friday 23rd of November and were asked to make a presentation on Monday 26th November.
Again it is our understanding that all of the submissions were to manage both public and/or private hire operations.

All through the tender process all companies were fully aware of what was being asked and the difficulties that this would cause.
Many companies down south have long since crossed the bridge into dual fleet territory and every bidder in this tender process saw these as an example of how it could work.
It is only when the announcement is made on the 7th February 2013 that City Cabs were being offered the Management of Public Hire Rank was there a scurry to find Bill McIntosh's phone number.

Well done Mr Mcvay. A thorough and honest response to Lionel's topic. Fantastic to see one of the men in question having the decency to post under his own name. I wonder if we will have the pleasure of a response from one of CRT's Committee under their own name, I wouldn't hold your breath.

If how ever one of the leaders at Gilmore Place have proof that what Mr Mcvay has said then have the balls to come on and prove it, if you can't put up! Shut up! I think it's a case of a reversal of what Mr Spalding said, if the CRT committee keep feeding their people the same lines, they will believe it.

Looks like It's another propaganda attack by CRT just in time for the AGM,

Wonder where Scarlet is??? Is he playing hide and seek? 321 ready or not!! Oh, that was intended at Mr Spalding

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Subject: New taxi rank in North St Andrew Street
All
Please note that the area currently being used as a taxi rank on the north side of St Andrew Square will removed and relined, for use by the bus operators

The nearest official taxi rank is situated in North St Andrew Street, outside the bus station.


CEC Tram team

There are still permits available for the Public Hire Rank at Edinburgh Airport through City Cabs should anyone be interested.

I am sorry you feel like this Mr Spalding but to be able not to speak to you again I first need to know who you are?

I'd be interested to hear where you get your information Mr Spealshiteing, sorry Spalding. 95% of the City Cabs members and drivers are not happy to be working alongside ECPH, utter nonsense. Very strong to be calling someone a scumbag, and in case you hadn't realised you have nothing to do with Mr McVay at present and thank goodness you are not working for City Cabs with an attitude like that.

What I suggest Mr Spealshiteing is that you run along and make up some information that at least contains some truth, maybe you and your friend Scarlet could come up with something together while you make some scones!!!!

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Let's play join the dots. Stephen Malcolm, the bold boys from ECPH, Woody & Gibson, Colky & Terri with Terri working in City Cabs office and Les and Dod running the show at their end.

Oh and what's left of the City Cabs committee approving anything Lesley and George come up with?

So who really benefits and why?

Oh and what about City Cabs members, ah yes, it's their company, and it's being run for their benefit, now that they are in the Airport, isn't that right?

Kaiser:

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Abraham Lincoln

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

My view is this..... all those individuals who over many months berated City Cabs Committee for their actions now need to come on here and respond to Mr Mcvays posts and without personal abuse, explain what part of his posts are lies and show EVIDENCE to back up their stance.
If they cannot then stop the sad pathetic personal abuse. For months I have read here and elsewhere that there is evidence available to view at Gilmore Place to prove Central were innocent of any wrongdoing and City were the bad guys. NOW is the chance for ANYONE in Central to post this info HERE in an open forum for all to see and counter Mr Mcvays posts.
I await with interest to see what FACTUAL EVIDENCE is posted by ANYONE in Central

[quote="Skull"]Let's play join the dots. Stephen Malcolm, the bold boys from ECPH, Woody & Gibson, Colky & Terri with Terri working in City Cabs office and Les and Dod running the show at their end.

Oh and what's left of the City Cabs committee approving anything Lesley and George come up with?

So who really benefits and why?

Oh and what about City Cabs members, ah yes, it's their company, and it's being run for their benefit, now that they are in the Airport, isn't that right?

Kaiser:


No surprise once again Skull that your post holds no substance. You said you were going to post with evidence that Mr Mcvay and Mr Aird had dirty secrets, you have nothing as they have acted with integrity. They are the only ones who have invited people to view the documents and emails that prove there was no devious actions taken.

What is happening here Skull is that the Dictators at Gilmore place, and that's not just the committee, it's the other Spin Doctors that are sent out to discredit not only the City Cabs committee but any action taken by City Cabs. If you want to hear what Mr Spealshiting and Scarlet have to say go buy yourself a bran scone some night. What they talk is pure [edited by admin] followed up by more [edited by admin].

HSSC, fantastic post. I will guarantee you this, they have no proof because their is none. They listen to the lies and then feed whoever wants to listen.

We await, it's going to be a long wait

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YAWN SAME OLD SAME OLD TTFN

A rather limp response for one shouting from the rafters Mr Spealshiting!!! Proves once again that what you preach is utter nonsense!! From Motormouth to Losermouth in a very short space of time!

Oh and HSSC, still no substance in any post or a reply from any of the Dictatorship at Gilmore Place.

Now that is worth a yawn!!!

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