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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:30 pm 
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Burton taxi firms anger at licence fee hikes


TAXI firms across Burton have reacted angrily after it was agreed to hike licence fees by almost 50 per cent.

One taxi company said the move by East Staffordshire Borough Council was like ‘trying to get blood from a stone’.

The licensing committee at the borough council has agreed the setting of licensing fees and charges for 2013/14 and included are ‘significant’ increases to the cost of renewing taxi licences.

The fee for renewing licenses for private hire and hackney carriage drivers will rise from £95.70 to £145 annually – an increase of £49.30.

Councillors on the committee were given the option of phasing the rise in over three years, but decided rather to make the increase immediately.

Amjab Hussain, from 57 Taxis, told the Mail: “The driver’s are quite furious – they are really angry.

“The increases are not just five or 10 per cent but nearly 50 per cent.

“Obviously they have to make some money so it will have to go on to the customer.”

Mohammed Hussain, from Branston Taxis, said: “If they could have made it over three years it would not have been so bad but just to do it one go is really, really unfair.

“I think the public will have to pay which will not go down well.”

Mimtiaz Talib, from Station Taxis, said he was ‘appalled’ and disgusted’.

He said: “Obviously people are just pleased to have their jobs the way things are going but they (the council) are just pushing us right to the wall.”

A report to the committee said that no changes would have meant taxpayers having to subsidise the fees by £27,000 per year.

Chairman Councillor Jacqui Jones said: “The licensing committee expressed a majority view that the fees and charges as proposed is the preferred approach.

“The committee considered it inappropriate for all ESBC council tax payers to subsidise these fees by £27,000 per year.”

source: http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Burton ... 150307.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:38 pm 
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“Obviously they have to make some money so it will have to go on to the customer.”

They don't have to make money, that's illegal. They can cover their costs only.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:39 pm 
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The fee for renewing licenses for private hire and hackney carriage drivers will rise from £95.70 to £145 annually – an increase of £49.30.

So they are using gold plated license holders, and David Beckham is doing the processing? [-X

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:23 pm 
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Thats still £38 cheaper than ours, what they moaning about


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:29 pm 
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http://www1.eaststaffsbc.gov.uk/CMIS5/D ... Ff55vVA%3d

http://www1.eaststaffsbc.gov.uk/CMIS5/D ... Ff55vVA%3d

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I see that they say that they have based the fees on time analysis but there is no mention of what this time is.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:20 am 
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I see that they say that they have based the fees on time analysis but there is no mention of what this time is.



true - but don't your council not do this at all - and say they cant?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:59 am 
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They have to advertise the proposed increase and consider objections.

Have you objected?

When the proposed fees are advertised object and ask the council to provide the full analysis of their income and expenditure and tell them that you don't think that the fees comply with EU law. If they can't provide a detailed breakdown of income/expenditure I can't see how they can't set a legal fee at any level!!

Remember that they can only recover 'reasonable' costs and only for administration.

Point them at the EU Provision of Services Regulations 2009 - there is an explanation of how the regulations affect all licence fees (not just taxis) in Hemmings and others v Westminster City Council . The section of the judgement which considers the impact of the Regulations on 'enforcement' costs is lengthy and detailed. The conclusion reads:

"I have concluded that since the year beginning 1 February 2010, the Council has not been permitted, when determining the reasonable licence fee for sex establishments [or any licence or authorisation?], to reflect in the fee which it determines the costs of enforcing the system." (I have added the wording in the brackets)

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grandad wrote:
I see that they say that they have based the fees on time analysis but there is no mention of what this time is.



true - but don't your council not do this at all - and say they cant?

I am about to send some more freedom of information requests in about this. :wink:

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so now they are paying what I pay - but i pay an EXTRA £85 twice a year as well for my 4 month plates


tell em to STFU

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One last attempt to make the council see sense.

http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Plea-b ... 133753.htm

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