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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:38 pm 
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Nice of you to prove my point.
I don't suppose grandad will find this offensive or racist. :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 4:02 pm 
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What's up Nidge? Can't you find their new manifesto?
Or maybe you just don't care what's in it. :-k

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 7:17 pm 
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cabby john wrote:
An article from the UKIP site.

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Protect Our Borders
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• Regain control of our borders and of immigration - only possible by leaving the EU.

• Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependents for 5 years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), private education and private housing - they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.

• A points-based visa system and time-limited work permits.

• Proof of private health insurance must be a precondition for immigrants and tourists to enter the UK.
We already have control of our borders, hence the very long delays trying to get back into the country after I've been working abroad, already stated in an earlier post! Have you ever joined the 2 hour queue at Calais trying to board a ferry or shuttle train? The majority of people being inconvenienced are UK passport holders, not "illegal immigrants" who would stow away in a lorry anyway! Why delay millions for the sake of a few?

ISTR the cons have already proposed that immigrants must be able to support themselves and the majority of immigrants already do.

We already have appoints based visa system and time limited work permits.

ISTR the cons are also proposing no free access to the NHS except in emergency.

And NO, I don't have a clue who I'll be voting for in the coming elections, none of the parties appeal to me, especially not with our stupid "first past the post" electoral system.


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:02 pm 
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roythebus wrote:

And NO, I don't have a clue who I'll be voting for in the coming elections, none of the parties appeal to me, especially not with our stupid "first past the post" electoral system.

The EU elections are not first past the post. They are PR so you will be OK for that election.

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:01 pm 
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What's up Nidge? Can't you find their new manifesto?
Or maybe you just don't care what's in it. :-k



You aren't part of it so you're not privy to it. They're standing up for my birth rights unlike the other 3.

You want to stop reading the Suns blatant anti UKIP articles because, at the moment they're so obvious and desperate. Left wing fascism is alive and kicking.


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:54 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
cabby john wrote:
An article from the UKIP site.

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Protect Our Borders
issues_immigration.png

• Regain control of our borders and of immigration - only possible by leaving the EU.

• Immigrants must financially support themselves and their dependents for 5 years. This means private health insurance (except emergency medical care), private education and private housing - they should pay into the pot before they take out of it.

• A points-based visa system and time-limited work permits.

• Proof of private health insurance must be a precondition for immigrants and tourists to enter the UK.


We already have control of our borders, hence the very long delays trying to get back into the country after I've been working abroad, already stated in an earlier post! Have you ever joined the 2 hour queue at Calais trying to board a ferry or shuttle train? The majority of people being inconvenienced are UK passport holders, not "illegal immigrants" who would stow away in a lorry anyway! Why delay millions for the sake of a few?

ISTR the cons have already proposed that immigrants must be able to support themselves and the majority of immigrants already do.

We already have appoints based visa system and time limited work permits.

ISTR the cons are also proposing no free access to the NHS except in emergency.

And NO, I don't have a clue who I'll be voting for in the coming elections, none of the parties appeal to me, especially not with our stupid "first past the post" electoral system.



We have control of our borders in the sense of checking roads etc - but! the borders re Airports is letting them in by the tens of thousands Or if you like millions over the years, in a nutshell it is not just a few. If as you say we already have a points system, then how come the "Big Issue" sellers are out and out foreign, barely/in some cases not able to speak our lingo, basically on the next thing to begging, not here for real jobs or with any meaningful qualifications. The NHS is swamped with those who come over for free ops and maternity delivery, I honestly cannot see your argument.

If the government ever admit to a figure of any sort i.e only 2 million have come over, then you can triple or quadruple it. Go to London to find a Londoner and you will practically have more chance of winning the lottery.

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 10:06 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
gusmac wrote:
What's up Nidge? Can't you find their new manifesto?
Or maybe you just don't care what's in it. :-k



You aren't part of it so you're not privy to it. They're standing up for my birth rights unlike the other 3.

You want to stop reading the Suns blatant anti UKIP articles because, at the moment they're so obvious and desperate. Left wing fascism is alive and kicking.


Sad thing is you're probably stupid enough to believe that. #-o

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:51 pm 
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I thought The Sun was right wing

make your minds up

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 5:18 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I thought The Sun was right wing


It's a matter of perspective. Everything is left wing if you're far enough to the right :lol:

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Deary me, now they're arguing amongst themselves :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:17 pm 
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grandad wrote:
roythebus wrote:

And NO, I don't have a clue who I'll be voting for in the coming elections, none of the parties appeal to me, especially not with our stupid "first past the post" electoral system.

The EU elections are not first past the post. They are PR so you will be OK for that election.
:D Just testing to see if you're awake :D .


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Deary me, now they're arguing amongst themselves :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:59 pm 
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Deary me, now they're arguing amongst themselves :badgrin:

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Nice to see Salmond the wanker up to no good in Russia.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 11:49 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
gusmac wrote:
What's up Nidge? Can't you find their new manifesto?
Or maybe you just don't care what's in it. :-k
You aren't part of it so you're not privy to it. They're standing up for my birth rights unlike the other 3.

You want to stop reading the Suns blatant anti UKIP articles because, at the moment they're so obvious and desperate. Left wing fascism is alive and kicking.


Just what do you think your birthright is nidge?
Let me clue you in.
It is to work your balls off for the further enrichment of the rich and powerful. It always has been.
Farage and his wealthy backers are not going to change that one little bit, so in that respect you are correct.
Hell someone has to do the sh*t jobs for sh*t pay and once all the foreigners have been booted out, guess who that's going to be? #-o
But hey, you keep deluding yourself that UKIP aren't a party owned by and run for the wealthy. They have your best interests at heart. Why else are the rich and powerful backing them? :roll:

Thanks for confirming there is a secret manifesto nidge but I seriously doubt a pleb like you would be privy to it. :shock:
If you were, you'd have more than a few cut and paste pictures to back your case. Declaring what you don't like as being "bollox" doesn't cut it either.

But here's your chance to prove me wrong. Just tell us which of those 10 statements are "bollox".

Bet you can't :lol:

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