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Skull Wrote: A bit like having a brain and not using it.

I suppose he speaks from experience!!

ALI T wrote: youre assuming a lot skull these 2 dont have brains

You can always expect the muppet to support the Queen!!!!

But would doubling the taxis in Edinburgh produce the same reduction in PH as happened in St Andrews.

St Andrews Taxis 45 to 90 = +100% then Edinburgh = 1260 to 2520
St Andrews PHCs 5 to 2 = -60% then Edinburgh = 800 to 320

Aye there's always the tooth fairy to believe in too!!!!
And I.T.S profits? well who knows??

By the way, what the Sheriff in the Dundee case about people phoning from mobile phones was the reason for PH growth was nonsense - even if more people were phoning rather than hailing why exclude your car from the odd street job for the price of a meter and topsign?

The figures from St Andres prove the point - theres always more phone work in small towns, so if the sheriffs theory was correct there would be more PH and less taxis, but its the opposite.

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Dundee rocks. Almost.

I dont think you can use the numbers to extrapolate like that (did a bit of stats once upon a time!), I think its the principle involved thats illustrated here - its like standing on one of these sausage type baloons and if you stand on one end it just expands at the other end

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Dundee rocks. Almost.

It's like they say, you can prove anything with statistics - even non-existent unmet demand!!!

And we won't ask which balloon you meant!!

If my memory is correct: Call work 60-67% hail work 30-33%:Taxis do both.


Dundonian I don't want to be cutting but what exactly are you trying to say?

There is a case for the increase in taxis then based on your stats of course why don't you tell us to what extent?

youre right! nice to see some sense from you at last boy

of course i know! you realise that these numbers arent achieved overnight

and the double amount of taxi's would all then be single shifted motors

1260 double shifted

2520 sinlge shifted

so no drop in profits per driver

and the ability to take on drivers should demand rear its head or simply put on more plates .

glad to see the penny finally drop with you

welcome to the real world

realcabfarce wrote
"And I.T.S profits? well who knows??"

i do! a big fat zero

just for you realcabforce/forum its on its way like it or not?

David Farmer
Head of Taxi/PHV Branch
8th June 2005

Dear Colleague,

Government request to all councils restricting the number of taxi licences in England and Wales outside London to review Quantity Control policies

According to our records your authority has not yet replied to Rupert Cope's letter of 16 June last year asking you to review your council's policy of controlling taxi numbers. My purpose in writing now is to ask, please, if you could respond by 30 June.

Mr Cope's letter of 16 June was sent to you in the light of the Government's response to the Office of Fair Trading's report on the UK taxi market, published in March 2004. The Government did not accept the OFT's recommendation that legislation which allows local licensing authorities to control taxi numbers should be repealed. Whilst the Government expressed a view that quantity controls were unlikely to be in the best interests of consumers, Ministers nevertheless took the view that the decision on whether or not to control taxi numbers should continue to be made by local licensing authorities. However, the Government response to the OFT report said that we would be writing to all local licensing authorities which controlled taxi numbers asking them to carry out a review of their policy.

Accordingly, Mr Cope's letter of 16 June 2004 asked local licensing authorities to carry out a review of controlling taxi numbers, with a view to removing the restrictions where a clear case for consumer benefits could not be made. It asked for a response by 30 April 2005. I attach a copy of the annex to Mr Cope's letter which listed some useful issues to address in undertaking a review of the policy.

As we have not yet heard from your council, I should be grateful if you could respond to the Government's request by 30 June 2005.

I would like to take the opportunity to draw attention to the point that the Government's request asked councils to review their policy on this matter. The key question is whether to maintain quantity control or whether to remove them, particularly bearing in mind the interests of consumers, not whether or not there is unmet demand in your area. We have received some interim responses from local authorities who say that they cannot deal with the request within the given timescale because they were undertaking a survey of unmet demand. However, the fact that a local licensing authority is undertaking a survey of unmet demand presupposes that a policy decision has been taken to maintain quantity controls; an assessment of unmet demand is not required if a decision has been taken to deregulate. So, if you are currently undertaking a survey of unmet demand, perhaps you could at least respond to us explaining why the local authority has taken the policy decision to maintain quantity controls rather than to remove them.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours faithfully


David Farmer

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Who's been "Editing" my mailbox then ...lol

Well, you'll have to do without my input for a bit, holidays for 3 glorious weeks but as they say in the movies "I'll be back" so try and behave, by the time I come back maybe you will have seen sense. somehow It doubt it tho.

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Who's been "Editing" my mailbox then ...lol

Missing you already.

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IDFIMH

aye and no demand when in fact thier is

In the Dundee case the sheriff was trying to explain the rise in PH numbers by saying that people were using mobiles to phone for a cab more. This could be one of the arguments they are using to explain PH growth in Edinburgh?

But to use your figures all that has happened is that the call work has increased to 75% and hail work reduced to 25%. But even if the taxis were getting feweer hails then thats still no reason to go PH, because why would you give up your hail work, even if its reduced from 3 out of 10 jobs to 2.5 out of 10.

So the increase in PH was actually because the cars couldn't get a taxi plate, it had nothing to do with mobile phones.

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Dundee rocks. Almost.

I dont want to put figures to it, but all I was saying was that there was PH only existed in Dundee because of the taxi plate restrictions, which kind of proves your point about Edinburgh.

But now the restriction is not because of the plate numbers, its because you need a WAV, so there are still a few PH in Dundee, so I'm not saying there wouldnt be PH in Edinburgh if it was dereged, but I doubt if there would be so many.

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Dundee rocks. Almost.