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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:36 pm 
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Liverpool taxi licensing committee meeting 4-8-05 The application for the E 7 taxi to be used in Liverpool , The committee decided the application should be refused for the following reasons .---------- The vehicle does not meet the public carriage office conditions, of fitness which Liverpool council applies to assess the suitability of vehicles, as hackney carriages in Liverpool . The committee has particular concerns, over safety issues reguarding sliding doors and the use of wheel chair access ramp . Streetcar .


Thank you for that information Streetcar. I suppose it was to be expected.

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Well it was expected , but why is it in 160 towns in England they dont seem to have any of these concerns . Iceman in Birmingham says there fine , cgull sees them all the time . Its strange the same Liverpool committee oks taxis to have a bloody great T V screen in the back, with all the safety issues that are involved with that . But sliding doors thats out . The committee seem there only to rubber stamp what the big fleet owners and their puppets the T&G want . My veiw is the owners should have been given this option of the E7 , the vehicle is a Taxi is safe and could help drivers , diversify by doing airport runs, school runs ,holiday camps any thing to get the cabs of the ranks during the day . Would have been a god send cheaper, cleaner, another waisted opportunity. Streetcar .


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Without a doubt Liverpool council are a shower of sh**. :shock:

Let's hope that the PCO amend their rules and allow the likes of E7. Maybe they will, maybe they wont, but if Liverpool follow the MCoF, then those Liverpool councillors will have an interesting time justifying why they are not safe one month, but they are the next.

But if I was a director of Cab Direct, I'm not sure I would take someone saying my motors were unsafe too lightly. :wink:

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http://councillors.liverpool.gov.uk/ieL ... 4804&Ver=4

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streetcar wrote:
http://councillors.liverpool.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.asp?CId=306&MId=4804&Ver=4

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Here are the reasons why Liverpool wouldn't licence the E7.

I'm particularly concerned about the second reason because it implies there are two types of public. Namely, Private hire public and Hackney carriage public. It would seem that Liverpool council think the Private hire public are safe to travel in the E7 but the Hackney carriage public are not.

If the sliding doors are a safety issue, perhaps Liverpool council should stop licensing the E7 as a private hire vehicle? I just wonder if a private hire member of the public got in a private hire vehicle one day and a Hackney carriage the next how would the council categorise him?

Perhaps we should ask Liverpool council how they they tell a private hire member of the public from a hackney carriage member?

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* the vehicle does not meet the Public Carriage Office Conditions of Fitness which Liverpool City Council applies to assess the suitability of vehicles as hackney carriages in Liverpool; and

* the Committee has particular concerns over the safety issues regarding

the sliding doors and the use of the wheelchair access ramp


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Well JD you are absolutly correct , but there is only one E7 being use on private hire . I think they just threw that in two muddy the water . Do you think that if i hurt myself, getting out of the E7 ph i could sue the council for licensing a vehicle , that the council it self have said is un safe. I wonder what the city solicitor will make of that . The miniutes of the meeting refer to members , of the trade addressing the meeting not saying who they are, fleet owner or T&G not alot of good when you are trying two work out . what the real reason for them objecting to the E7 are. Perhaps some one out there will tell me because i just dont get it . I dont believe the doors ,ramps , PH crap. THIS COUNCIL LICENSES H REG FAIRWAY SHED S. BUT WONT LICENSE A BRAND NEW E7 . DO THIS COUNCIL REALISE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WHATS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST NOT WHAT THE NAMELESS TRADE MEMBERS WANT. STREETCAR.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:55 pm 
we have ph with E7 and VWs and Mercs.
we have taxis with E7 and VWs and Mercs.
and nooen has ever fallen out of them whilst the motors are going.
Liverpool council are as bent as most of the people ive picked up this weekend. :oops:


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http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_99/pg01.htm


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greenbadgecabby wrote:
http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_99/pg01.htm


Old habits die-hard but the name of the game has got to be choice. I have no doubt that eventually choice is what we will get, one way or the other? When choice does finally come LTI will either have to reduce their prices or suffer the consequences. I have it on very good authority that LTI are extremely worried that the COF decision by TFL might go against their interests. Not just because of the effect it will have on London but because of the domino effect it will have on those other councils who have a policy of only licensing vehicles that comply with the MCOF.

I for one would welcome choice and if I weren't so busy I would be adding my weight behind everyone else who feels the same way.

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Lyz Lynne puts her two penneth in.

http://www.lizlynne.org.uk/news/122.html

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'Cheap' van conversions.

£25k for the E7, politicians have a funny idea on peoples spending ability.

It must be something to do with being called 'Lynne' (Featherstone) and being an MP who knows Jack about the Taxi trade.

If they had bothered to talk to disability groups they would have found support for the E7's quick loading facility, opposed to fannying around getting the ramps out of the boot on an early TX1 or Fairway.


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greenbadgecabby wrote:

It must be something to do with being called 'Lynne' (Featherstone) and being an MP who knows Jack about the Taxi trade.



More like a Euro-MP who has LTI in her constituency.

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_99/pg01.htm

I wonder if they their next frontpage splash will be 'Liverpool kick out the E7s'? :?

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Its a bit hipocritical of Liz . Birmingham it self use the E7 is she saying, its ok for her disabled to use a second rate E7, but London and every body else should use a Metro or TX . If she realy thinks there crap why is she not jumping up and down asking questions in the european parliament . streetcar..


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:04 pm 
how can it be right to license them as ph but not as taxis?
if people are going to fall out of them. then it doesn't matter the nature of the hire.
or have I missed something? :?


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