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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:23 pm 
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It is not about Uber v City cars or Edinburgh council or taxi trade.

Apps are here. Apps and technology wins every time. VFM! Apps are cheap as chips, radios are costly and outdated.

Every single problem posted above is easily sorted. If one app doesn't do it the next one will. Driver or punter can use either app at any time.

Punters just want a taxi and will use four phone apps at a time much. Press button and take the first cab.
Want to cancel and keep the app functional just press cancel and the other three drivers get instant notification.
Drivers just want a hire and have four apps on their smartphone that cost nothing.
Lost that 50p a hire job, no worries it was cancelled and I get my 50p back! Might as well take the 20% job!

Customer loyalty to radio circuits?,
tell that to the fourteen yr old who is yet to every hail a taxi! who loads up his granny's phone just like when he introduced her to mobiles.
Tell it to the driver who has a costly radio and four cheap apps giving him jobs. Run for that radio job or take the app job. ( apps use location services so all go to the nearest driver - instantly)

Account work? Apps giving the company bean counter an electronic receipt for an electronically measured fare, with a loyalty bonus from the app provider. No brainier!

Apps take all cards and /or cash to driver.

Apps are global or at least national companies to the taxi trade - high volume low cost businesses.
No need for local offices as each booking is effectively an electronic street hail.

Apps are the demise of the Radio circuit not the taxi trade. Possibly the trades salvation.

PH will probably still need a booking office and it's licence as they should not take direct bookings from customers, hence Uber application.
Taxi trade might consider that - I did mention the app ability to use location services- PH apps can monitor and restrict bookings depending on location of driver and customer!


An App can sit very well alongside a radio circuit, as proven previously, with over 400 Taxis servicing both circuit and App jobs, you say 4 cheap Apps, 20% is not cheaper than the radio circuit I'm a member off, again a previous post proves this, for less than £20 a 24 hour day my earnings have no cap or hidden extra cost, quote Skull, £100=£80 earned, £100 quid earned over 24 hours on a circuit is unheard of :wink:

CABAPPy I remember sussing out your psudenem, it seems you have a vested interest in a Cab App, carry on believing, it might be right for your area but it's not right for Edinburgh, we have it covered and we have an App that doesn't require the need to provide your cherished card details, we have chip n pin, again we are 3 years ahead of Uber, it looks like they still have a long way to go before they become a threat in Edinburgh :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:26 pm 
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Uber's end game is driverless vehicles, I give you that, so why would any right minded cabbie ultimately support them in their quest to destroy the need for themselves :roll: We should be united in destroying them before they destroy us, CC&Skull I can't believe you have admitted supporting the Uber way :shock:


Really - have the massed ranks of private hire operators actually put a hand in their pocket by way of donations?

Addison Lee - valued at £800 million were passed an app in Leeds courtesy of COM CAB - a taxi company.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:32 pm 
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Yes, but the only thing left to replace with technology is the driver. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


and that's next :wink:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069

Cough :wink:

Yours and Skulls I believe :lol:

I've taken a look in to Uber, they are going to use Uber muppets to drive them to big profits so they can then invest heavily into driverless cars but hey never mind my opinion, if Uber is good for you :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:35 pm 
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We should be united in destroying them before they destroy us,

Interesting because in your first post on this thread you stated that it wont happen in Edinburgh and now you think they could destroy you. :shock: :?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:36 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Uber's end game is driverless vehicles, I give you that, so why would any right minded cabbie ultimately support them in their quest to destroy the need for themselves :roll: We should be united in destroying them before they destroy us, CC&Skull I can't believe you have admitted supporting the Uber way :shock:


Dougie, with guys like you on the planet it makes me wonder how man ever made it to the Moon. #-o #-o #-o

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:36 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Uber's end game is driverless vehicles, I give you that, so why would any right minded cabbie ultimately support them in their quest to destroy the need for themselves :roll: We should be united in destroying them before they destroy us, CC&Skull I can't believe you have admitted supporting the Uber way :shock:


Really - have the massed ranks of private hire operators actually put a hand in their pocket by way of donations?

Addison Lee - valued at £800 million were passed an app in Leeds courtesy of COM CAB - a taxi company.

A minute ago my post was utter tosh, you replaced it with the above, and the relevance :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:38 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
captain cab wrote:
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Yes, but the only thing left to replace with technology is the driver. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


and that's next :wink:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069

Cough :wink:

Yours and Skulls I believe :lol:

I've taken a look in to Uber, they are going to use Uber muppets to drive them to big profits so they can then invest heavily into driverless cars but hey never mind my opinion, if Uber is good for you :shock:


There's no shortage of muppets in the Edinburgh Taxi Trade so Uber should fit right in. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Private Reggie wrote:
captain cab wrote:
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Yes, but the only thing left to replace with technology is the driver. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


and that's next :wink:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069

Cough :wink:

Yours and Skulls I believe :lol:

I've taken a look in to Uber, they are going to use Uber muppets to drive them to big profits so they can then invest heavily into driverless cars but hey never mind my opinion, if Uber is good for you :shock:


I removed the utter tosh remark because I didn't want to insult you - I removed posts for the same reason earlier today made by another contributor - I could hardly carry on by insulting a contributor myself could I.

I respect your opinion.


Thanks for reminding me what I just posted - Google are testing the driverless car.

Tell me what law UBER are breaking in the UK if the license themselves as a PH operator, use licensed vehicles and licensed drivers.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:42 pm 
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Exactly CC, Uber have already adapted to fit in with UK legislation. =D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:42 pm 
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grandad wrote:
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We should be united in destroying them before they destroy us,

Interesting because in your first post on this thread you stated that it wont happen in Edinburgh and now you think they could destroy you. :shock: :?

Hypothetical grandad, if the whole trade in the UK bend over thoughand allow the big boys to slip one up our rears then yes they could destroy us, you know wipe us out completely, I'm saying though Edinburgh is in a good place to fight back, Uber though firstly have to operate within my LAs regulations, if they won't then we become another to ban them :D

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Its irrelevant that Uber is operating globally but in conflict with local regulations.
It doesn't matter that money talks and if they win the day or not.

Telephone booking is becoming obsolete. Their use generally is also diminishing if you believe what employers are saying about school leavers not able to use one. And Vodaphone surveyed customers to find 35% don't have a landline.

Apps are here, and will only develop they will not disappear. They are already incredibly sophisticated but simple to use. Their appeal is universal.

True some of the taxi trade embrace technology but nothing like the PH trade, which is for the most part owned, directed by and profitable to a small number of individuals. PH drivers do what they are told or don't get the work.

The taxi trade however falls on the rock of being self employed 'businessmen'. Entrenched to the point of being thrawn.
Reluctant to change 'a good thing' who use 'competition' as the excuse for raising the self above and beyond the common good and whose umbilical is the radio link to the office .

All suitably demonstrated in this thread.

Apps are possibly the trade salvation!


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Private Reggie wrote:
grandad wrote:
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We should be united in destroying them before they destroy us,

Interesting because in your first post on this thread you stated that it wont happen in Edinburgh and now you think they could destroy you. :shock: :?

Hypothetical grandad, if the whole trade in the UK bend over thoughand allow the big boys to slip one up our rears then yes they could destroy us, you know wipe us out completely, I'm saying though Edinburgh is in a good place to fight back, Uber though firstly have to operate within my LAs regulations, if they won't then we become another to ban them :D


Deary me Dougie, you are dreaming. Your puny little trade is not about to destroy anyone, let alone Uber.

Oh and you better watch what you are saying about your new employer. :shock: :shock: :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:50 pm 
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CC "IF"
Until they are willing they are not a threat :wink:

Google are one of Ubers biggest investors :shock: Doing the dirty work :wink: Getting rid of the likes of me and you :shock:

A bit of research goes a long way.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:52 pm 
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Cabhappy wrote:
Its irrelevant that Uber is operating globally but in conflict with local regulations.
It doesn't matter that money talks and if they win the day or not.

Telephone booking is becoming obsolete. Their use generally is also diminishing if you believe what employers are saying about school leavers not able to use one. And Vodaphone surveyed customers to find 35% don't have a landline.

Apps are here, and will only develop they will not disappear. They are already incredibly sophisticated but simple to use. Their appeal is universal.

True some of the taxi trade embrace technology but nothing like the PH trade, which is for the most part owned, directed by and profitable to a small number of individuals. PH drivers do what they are told or don't get the work.

The taxi trade however falls on the rock of being self employed 'businessmen'. Entrenched to the point of being thrawn.
Reluctant to change 'a good thing' who use 'competition' as the excuse for raising the self above and beyond the common good and whose umbilical is the radio link to the office .

All suitably demonstrated in this thread.

Apps are possibly the trade salvation!


That's a good piece again apart from "Apps are possibly the trade salvation!" I just don't see it. :-|

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:53 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
CC "IF"
Until they are willing they are not a threat :wink:

Google are one of Ubers biggest investors :shock: Doing the dirty work :wink: Getting rid of the likes of me and you :shock:

A bit of research goes a long way.


And your point is........... :?

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