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The future once they get a hold in your manor :shock:

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Skull, if they can't get enough drivers/cars following the rules, do you think they'll just pack up and leave?
Their reputation world wide is to pi$$ all over any local regulations. I find it hard to believe they'd think twice about doing the same here.


The thing about this app is that it's generic. It need only be adapted to suite conditions and regulations at a local level but essentially, it's the same app software crunching numbers no matter where it is based in the world. So there is no reason why this app should not replace every taxi/phc office in the country.

As for Uber pi$$ing all over regulations, I don't think that legally the current legislation anywhere in the world is up to speed with Uber. However, that might change along with Uber's policy of how to operate in the future.

Uber is the future and it's coming to a city or town near you. :-| Even these Cities that have banned the Uber app will eventually get some version of this software, once they have negotiated a solution and modified its operation. It's only a matter of time. :-|

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:41 pm 
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Skull, if they can't get enough drivers/cars following the rules, do you think they'll just pack up and leave?
Their reputation world wide is to pi$$ all over any local regulations. I find it hard to believe they'd think twice about doing the same here.


The thing about this app is that it's generic. It need only be adapted to suite conditions and regulations at a local level but essentially, it's the same app software crunching numbers no matter where it is based in the world. So there is no reason why this app should not replace every taxi/phc office in the country.

As for Uber pi$$ing all over regulations, I don't think that legally the current legislation anywhere in the world is up to speed with Uber. However, that might change along with Uber's policy of how to operate in the future.

Uber is the future and it's coming to a city or town near you. :-| Even these Cities that have banned the Uber app will eventually get some version of this software, once they have negotiated a solution and modified its operation. It's only a matter of time. :-|

You Will be Assimilated. Resistance is Futile. ... :shock:


Used within the law, this technology could eventually replace traditional booking operations but it still legally requires licensed vehicles and drivers. There is the weak link in your thinking. You talk as if the law of the land is subject to the whims of uber. It is not.
Unlicensed drivers using this technology will be breaking the law, just like the ones offering paid lifts on facebook or the guy down the pub who's mobile number is written on the wall.
There is more than enough law already to deal with those people and the same law could be used against unlicensed uber drivers. What is lacking is a will to enforce it. That could change if uber ruffle enough feathers.

TBH I think you overrate the impact of this technology. The trade may not like it but they will adapt. They have no choice.
It will not kill the licensed taxi trade, any more than the motor vehicle, the telephone, the radio or the internet has.
There will be casualties, but the trade will go on.

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I won't be assimilated Skull. I'd walk away first :lol:

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gusmac wrote:
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gusmac wrote:
Skull, if they can't get enough drivers/cars following the rules, do you think they'll just pack up and leave?
Their reputation world wide is to pi$$ all over any local regulations. I find it hard to believe they'd think twice about doing the same here.


The thing about this app is that it's generic. It need only be adapted to suite conditions and regulations at a local level but essentially, it's the same app software crunching numbers no matter where it is based in the world. So there is no reason why this app should not replace every taxi/phc office in the country.

As for Uber pi$$ing all over regulations, I don't think that legally the current legislation anywhere in the world is up to speed with Uber. However, that might change along with Uber's policy of how to operate in the future.

Uber is the future and it's coming to a city or town near you. :-| Even these Cities that have banned the Uber app will eventually get some version of this software, once they have negotiated a solution and modified its operation. It's only a matter of time. :-|



You Will be Assimilated. Resistance is Futile. ... :shock:


Used within the law, this technology could eventually replace traditional booking operations but it still legally requires licensed vehicles and drivers. There is the weak link in your thinking. You talk as if the law of the land is subject to the whims of uber. It is not.
Unlicensed drivers using this technology will be breaking the law, just like the ones offering paid lifts on facebook or the guy down the pub who's mobile number is written on the wall.
There is more than enough law already to deal with those people and the same law could be used against unlicensed uber users. What is lacking is a will to enforce it. That could change if uber ruffle enough feathers.

TBH I think you overrate the impact of this technology. The trade may not like it but they will adapt. They have no choice.
It will not kill the licensed taxi trade, any more than the motor vehicle, the telephone, the radio or the internet has.
There will be casualties, but the trade will go on.


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I don't see any flaw in my thinking because you are reading things into my post that weren't there. Yeah your trade will change but that change will come from companies like Uber, influencing government policy and not the other way around. :-| At some point even the driver will be replaced by technology. :shock:

I'm afraid Gus me auld mucker, people like you and I really don't matter in the greater scheme of things, when up against multibillion dollar industries. :-|

Have a wee read.... :shock:

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The Luddites were 19th-century English textile artisans who protested against newly developed labour-replacing machinery from 1811 to 1817. The stocking frames, spinning frames and power looms introduced during the Industrial Revolution threatened to replace the artisans with less-skilled, low-wage labourers, leaving them without work.

Although the origin of the name Luddite is uncertain, a popular theory is that the movement was named after Ned Ludd, a youth who allegedly smashed two stocking frames in 1779, and whose name had become emblematic of machine destroyers. The name evolved into the imaginary General Ludd or King Ludd, a figure who, like Robin Hood, was reputed to live in Sherwood Forest.




Pointing out the illegality of not obeying the law is being a Luddite? Deary me #-o
I guess that makes me a Luddite then, doesn't it. :badgrin:

BTW The artisans in my trade are the drivers. As yet, there is no plan to replace them.

Except possibly with some unlicensed ones? Wouldn't that be illegal :shock:

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im a luddite - your in good company Gus :wink:

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Pointing out the illegality of not obeying the law is being a Luddite? Deary me #-o
I guess that makes me a Luddite then, doesn't it. :badgrin:


But they are obeying the law in this country. :?

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BTW The artisans in my trade are the drivers. As yet, there is no plan to replace them.


I think you should look up the meaning of the word artisan before claiming to be one. #-o Oh and they are working on the technology of driverless cars as we speak.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069

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Except possibly with some unlicensed ones? Wouldn't that be illegal :shock:

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Companies like Uber will have legislation rewritten to reflect their business interests, like they always do, that's why they hire lobbyists. :-|

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:37 am 
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Skull wrote:
I think you should look up the meaning of the word artisan before claiming to be one. #-o Oh and they are working on the technology of driverless cars as we speak.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069


Well if I'm no artisan, I can hardly be a Luddite then, can I?
It was your analogy, just who do you consider the artians?

As for driverless cars, I leave that for my grandchildren to worry about. I doubt I'll see those on the road in the dozen or so years before my retirement. [-X
Clutching at straws a bit there Skull :lol:

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Companies like Uber will have legislation rewritten to reflect their business interests, like they always do, that's why they hire lobbyists. :-|


Yes, this I don't doubt. Another word for it is corruption. That all takes time and money.
Uber could go broke just fighting the laws of dozens of countries and trying to buy political influence.

The price of shares can go down as well as up, you know :badgrin:

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gusmac wrote:
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I think you should look up the meaning of the word artisan before claiming to be one. #-o Oh and they are working on the technology of driverless cars as we speak.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069


Well if I'm no artisan, I can hardly be a Luddite then, can I?
It was your analogy, just who do you consider the artians?

As for driverless cars, I leave that for my grandchildren to worry about. I doubt I'll see those on the road in the dozen or so years before my retirement. [-X
Clutching at straws a bit there Skull :lol:


Gusmac, you are hardly skilled labour that practices some trade or handicraft, you drive a taxi ffs. #-o

In the context of the thread a Luddite is anyone fighting against technology, skilled or otherwise.... #-o

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In the context of the thread a Luddite is anyone fighting against technology, skilled or otherwise.... #-o


And where exactly do you see me fighting against any technology?

I point out the pitfalls. Nothing more. :p

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gusmac wrote:
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Companies like Uber will have legislation rewritten to reflect their business interests, like they always do, that's why they hire lobbyists. :-|


Yes, this I don't doubt. Another word for it is corruption. That all takes time and money.
Uber could go broke just fighting the laws of dozens of countries and trying to buy political influence.

The price of shares can go down as well as up, you know :badgrin:


Yeah but buying political influence is what being a politician is all about, they are there to be bought. :-|

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gusmac wrote:
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In the context of the thread a Luddite is anyone fighting against technology, skilled or otherwise.... #-o


And where exactly do you see me fighting against any technology?

I point out the pitfalls. Nothing more. :p


My mistake, you embracing technology the way you do. #-o What pitfalls? #-o

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