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 Post subject: Re: incident
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:20 pm 
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good advice there john, also I could be fearing the worst case scenario and she could have not maybe had a camera and it is just her word against mine. I know its all ifs and buts but just exploring all avenues.[/quote]

Until/unless they present any evidence, just state that a driver cut you up in traffic and could have caused an accident, this was only avoided due to your alertness. If asked - State that a few words might have taken place, at the same time adding that (no aggression/obscene language was used), I would point out that in traffic it is quite normal to point out to the other person/driver (as in this case) that they were in the wrong, and could have caused an accident. It might also be worthwhile adding that it would seem that this person has taken umbridge, and still will not accept that in law.......she could have been held liable for her poor driving.[/quote]

IGNORE THIS FROM CABBY JOHN! DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES COMMENT UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE WRITTEN COMPLAINT AND HAVE ORGANISED REPRESENTATION!

REMEMBER THIS PERSON WHO IS LIKELY TO PURSUE YOU IS AN EX COPPER :evil: :evil: :evil: I HAVE REPRESENTED MANY DRIVERS IN SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES TO YOUR'S AS A CERTIFIED TRADE UNION OFFICIAL AND COME ACROSS MANY EX COPPER OFFICIALS WHO WITHOUT EXCEPTION WERE DISHONEST, CORRUPT, VINDICTIVE, SCUM, HE WILL TAKE GREAT DELIGHT IN REMOVING YOUR LICENSE FOLLOW JOHNS ADVICE AND YOU ASSIST HIM IN DOING SO !

i HAVE PM'D YOU[/quote]

TT, a little bit of hypocrisy on the above coming from you!

You consistently criticise drivers for not standing up for themselves/not having a go.......and then when they do.......you tell them to get someone to hold their hand!! Coppers are not necessarily all that bright, just treat this one with caution, and remember that no matter how nice he tries to come across......HE IS NOT YOUR MATE.

My experience of them is that they will try to put words into your mouth i.e. he might ask...how fast were you going? You might say that you cannot remember the exact figure but it was under 30 mph!He might then say....well give me a figure/a rough figure....was it 10/15 mph, 15/20 mph it is only to fill in the gaps etc - whatever figure you give him - he will find if a reason to hold/make a case against you, do not answer his way.......stick to non commital answers, no matter to how arsey he gets.

Personally speaking, I am confident enough not to need a helping hand. If that is not the case for you, (and that is not a slight on you), then perhaps you will have to go down the Solicitor route.......and that is very costly.

P.S. Reading your post (I started putting this together before you posted) I am surprised that you have straight away gone for a solicitor......unfortunately you will land up out of pocket no matter what happens......to me, that goes totally against the grain.

Anyway.......good luck.[/quote]

With respect John i am expressing a PROFESSIONAL VIEW here, and my experience along with MrT's is keep sthum get representation.

Having dealt with very many of these cases i maintain that opinion!


I on so many occasions had to rescues situations created by drivers making statements attending interviews i eventually decided " if you make a statement or attend an interview on your own i will withdraw all representation" it worked .

Drivers with the best intentions so often made their situation much worse or even irrecoverable, they had to be stopped! They were !

Rest assured if i were in a similar situation personally i would not rep myself, reps need to be uninvolveld to take a constructive view of any problem.

I always respect your views John, and usually disagree with you and of course remember that as a former Publican and Cab Driver you have much experience to fall back on.

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 Post subject: Re: incident
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:21 pm 
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good advice there john, also I could be fearing the worst case scenario and she could have not maybe had a camera and it is just her word against mine. I know its all ifs and buts but just exploring all avenues.[/quote]

Until/unless they present any evidence, just state that a driver cut you up in traffic and could have caused an accident, this was only avoided due to your alertness. If asked - State that a few words might have taken place, at the same time adding that (no aggression/obscene language was used), I would point out that in traffic it is quite normal to point out to the other person/driver (as in this case) that they were in the wrong, and could have caused an accident. It might also be worthwhile adding that it would seem that this person has taken umbridge, and still will not accept that in law.......she could have been held liable for her poor driving.[/quote]

IGNORE THIS FROM CABBY JOHN! DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES COMMENT UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE WRITTEN COMPLAINT AND HAVE ORGANISED REPRESENTATION!

REMEMBER THIS PERSON WHO IS LIKELY TO PURSUE YOU IS AN EX COPPER :evil: :evil: :evil: I HAVE REPRESENTED MANY DRIVERS IN SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES TO YOUR'S AS A CERTIFIED TRADE UNION OFFICIAL AND COME ACROSS MANY EX COPPER OFFICIALS WHO WITHOUT EXCEPTION WERE DISHONEST, CORRUPT, VINDICTIVE, SCUM, HE WILL TAKE GREAT DELIGHT IN REMOVING YOUR LICENSE FOLLOW JOHNS ADVICE AND YOU ASSIST HIM IN DOING SO !

i HAVE PM'D YOU[/quote]

TT, a little bit of hypocrisy on the above coming from you!

You consistently criticise drivers for not standing up for themselves/not having a go.......and then when they do.......you tell them to get someone to hold their hand!! Coppers are not necessarily all that bright, just treat this one with caution, and remember that no matter how nice he tries to come across......HE IS NOT YOUR MATE.

My experience of them is that they will try to put words into your mouth i.e. he might ask...how fast were you going? You might say that you cannot remember the exact figure but it was under 30 mph!He might then say....well give me a figure/a rough figure....was it 10/15 mph, 15/20 mph it is only to fill in the gaps etc - whatever figure you give him - he will find if a reason to hold/make a case against you, do not answer his way.......stick to non commital answers, no matter to how arsey he gets.

Personally speaking, I am confident enough not to need a helping hand. If that is not the case for you, (and that is not a slight on you), then perhaps you will have to go down the Solicitor route.......and that is very costly.

P.S. Reading your post (I started putting this together before you posted) I am surprised that you have straight away gone for a solicitor......unfortunately you will land up out of pocket no matter what happens......to me, that goes totally against the grain.

Anyway.......good luck.[/quote]

With respect John i am expressing a PROFESSIONAL VIEW here, and my experience along with MrT's is keep sthum get representation.

Having dealt with very many of these cases i maintain that opinion!


I on so many occasions had to try to rescue situations created by drivers making statements attending interviews i eventually decided " if you make a statement or attend an interview on your own i will withdraw all representation" it worked .

Drivers with the best intentions so often made their situation much worse or even irrecoverable, they had to be stopped! They were !

Rest assured if i were in a similar situation personally i would not rep myself, reps need to be uninvolveld to take a constructive view of any problem.

I always respect your views John, and usually disagree with you and of course remember that as a former Publican and Cab Driver you have much experience to fall back on.Though not of course in this field.

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 Post subject: Re: incident
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:30 pm 
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turberrytom wrote:
thanks for that advice mr t, probably a better idea to keep the old gob shut. which I will do. I have managed to get a solicitor to represent me tomorrow gonna cost around £250 but I hope it will be worth it.


Correct and ALL DRIVERS should realise they could arrive in a similar situation through no fault of their own.

So the lesson to be learnt Join a Union GET EXPERT ADVICE AND REPRESENTATION FOR FREE,

i SUSPECT THAT TURBERRYTOM WILL FACE SEVERAL MORE INTERVIEWS AND HEARINGS BEFORE THIS SITUATION IS SETTLED AND IT WILL COST HIM MAYBE A £1000 OR MORE.

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 Post subject: Re: incident
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Nidge2 wrote:
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is that not a bit like the "no comment" interview technique!! not good with stuff like that. also think the licensing officer is an ex copper!!


They're the worse ones, they're never out of uniform. Our Ex Copper LO has finished thank fuck.


Always despicable corrupt nasty vindictive anti working class [HATES CAB DRIVERS AND ALWAYS A RACIST] fascist scum in my experience and iv'e met some, and got one the bullet =D> =D> =D> a real piece of sh!t maybe i will write it up one day =D>

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 Post subject: Re: incident
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:37 pm 
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99 out of 100 drivers that get prosecuted do so because they can not keep their gobs shut........pm TT


too fekking true you have my phone number if i can help feel free to call any time today Thursday 21 turber up until about 9 30 pm

anyway be lucky :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: incident
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and get a dashcam............... :badgrin:

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and get a dashcam............... :badgrin:


Yes indeed good idea!

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And the outcome was?

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 Post subject: Re: incident
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:18 pm 
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And the outcome was?

:-s :-s

He was hung :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: incident
PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:13 pm 
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turberrytom wrote:
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From recollection of a previous post on here I believe you are under no obligation (legally) to attend an interview with a licensing officer - basically you can tell them to get lost .

hiya its an interview with the licensing officer not committee, however it says on letter failure to attend can result in my licence being suspended/revoked.
I was hoping someone else would jump in and comment on whether you are required to attend an interview with a licensing officer.

I think, but again don't take my word for it, that the 'failure to attend can result in suspension etc' is just scaremongering - forcing you into thinking you have to attend the interview. I think it is more likely that if you don't attend then you might be put before the commitee and that they might revoke/suspend.

Actually, I think only the licensing commitee can revoke/suspend a licence and not just a licensing officer :?


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I was hoping someone else would jump in and comment on whether you are required to attend an interview with a licensing officer.

I think, but again don't take my word for it, that the 'failure to attend can result in suspension etc' is just scaremongering - forcing you into thinking you have to attend the interview. I think it is more likely that if you don't attend then you might be put before the commitee and that they might revoke/suspend.

Actually, I think only the licensing committee can revoke/suspend a licence and not just a licensing officer :?

If you don't turn up then matters can be discussed and options taken without your input. Maybe not right, but that's the way it is.

Depends on what rules apply in each licensing area, but LOs' can suspend or revoke, or suspend until licensing committee.

It's a bit confusing now because once a driver is suspended, he cannot be suspended again. So the option is either revoke or nothing.

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Sussex wrote:
Depends on what rules apply in each licensing area, but LOs' can suspend or revoke, or suspend until licensing committee.
In my area officers can suspend but only the full licensing commitee can take your licence off you.


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 Post subject: Re: incident
PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:22 pm 
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sasha wrote:
turberrytom wrote:
sasha wrote:
From recollection of a previous post on here I believe you are under no obligation (legally) to attend an interview with a licensing officer - basically you can tell them to get lost .

hiya its an interview with the licensing officer not committee, however it says on letter failure to attend can result in my licence being suspended/revoked.
I was hoping someone else would jump in and comment on whether you are required to attend an interview with a licensing officer.

I think, but again don't take my word for it, that the 'failure to attend can result in suspension etc' is just scaremongering - forcing you into thinking you have to attend the interview. I think it is more likely that if you don't attend then you might be put before the commitee and that they might revoke/suspend.

Actually, I think only the licensing commitee can revoke/suspend a licence and not just a licensing officer :?


i am not a lawyer but always thought it advisable to meet with one when requested to do so, failing to meet the officer and possibly clearing the issue there and then would NOT be considered by the Licensing Committe as good practice :D you refuse to attend time has to be found on the Ctts agenda which given its A straight forward issue will not amuse them plus of course if you get the ex copper clunt on hos own you can threaten him no end and frequently scare it off completely. :badgrin: THEYRE ALL TO$$ERS!!

As for being suspended i suspect it depends on the accusation no doubt he could in extreme circumstances get the Ctts Chair to take executive action/

I would attend a meeting as requested but of course alter the date timing if necessary the excuse being the Driver requires his Union rep to be present as is his right so the meeting takes place within the remit of MY THE UNION REPS diary which would be considered reasonable :badgrin: i often spun it out for weeks should the Driver request it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there more than one to way skin ex copper scum :badgrin: :badgrin:

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MR T wrote:
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And the outcome was?

:-s :-s

He was hung :shock:


Was that tongue in cheek Or do you know?

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Cabby John 1 wrote:
MR T wrote:
Sussex wrote:
And the outcome was?

:-s :-s

He was hung :shock:


Was that tongue in cheek Or do you know?



Tongue in cheek...mate......but you would think he would have told us what happen. :roll:

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