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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:30 pm 
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Tedious Dullards online, I will make enquiries about this myself.

only since you reared youre boring head



Yes your right Ali, I will retract my boring head and let you get on with it.


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Yes William we have got 1417 cabs . You have got 1200 . You have a nations parliament . You have tousands and tousands , of tourists coming out of your ears . Dont kid me, are you telling me the works not there , i dont belive you . Look at Birmingham and coventry ,they are not flooded with Taxis. Your trying to manipulate the council, with the ussual scare stories . If i owned a corner shop and sudenly ASDA opened up down the road , i would be scared . But i would not expect the council to consult me about it . Some how you seem to the Taxi trade is all about you . It not ,it should be about, the people who use them . Then the people who drive them . Whats the worst that can happen , you will have to start driving again . Its not that bad STREETCAR


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Streetcar theres 1260, you have 1417, a difference of 157, but work comming out our ears? thing is streetcar tourism is a seasonal thing.

I am not trying to manipulate anyone with scare stories, and why would you not expect to be consulted about developments taking place on your doorstep, it is a legal requirement of the planning process?

I do not think the Taxi trade is all about me, the very opposite actually, just trying to make sure it remains a viable operation in my locality, and will continue to do so.

Nothing worse than a totally unfettered market, innocent people get hurt, it's not the panacea that everyone makes it out to be, you should know that coming from Liverpool.

P.S I have not got an issue with the issue of more Licenses streetcar, but there has to be an exit strategy for those who paid for theirs.


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I dont know about that JD, and no I dont think anyone employs me, but we are involved in an undertaking, in my dictionary the word, undertaking is defined as "Enter upon an activity or enterprise" or "Any piece of work that is undertaken or attempted" so if as you say it does not cover Taxi drivers, it should.

William just so I can get my big head around this, exactly what undertakings have you or indeed do you expect to have, and from whom, about what? :-k

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P.S I have not got an issue with the issue of more Licenses streetcar, but there has to be an exit strategy for those who paid for theirs.

Not the way I like to see things done, but if the trade supported Mr Skull and Co, then it might have addressed your point.

Yes it would have meant a hundred or so extra plates, but the way things are going, it's 50/50 as to whether the council may have to issue many many hundreds. :-$

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P.S I have not got an issue with the issue of more Licenses streetcar, but there has to be an exit strategy for those who paid for theirs.

Not the way I like to see things done, but if the trade supported Mr Skull and Co, then it might have addressed your point.

Yes it would have meant a hundred or so extra plates, but the way things are going, it's 50/50 as to whether the council may have to issue many many hundreds. :-$


Theres no 50/50 about it, other than in your "bitter" mind, there will be no plates for the forseeable future,

Just because you keep saying it won't make it happen, keep wishing idiot :roll:

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P.S I have not got an issue with the issue of more Licenses streetcar, but there has to be an exit strategy for those who paid for theirs.

Not the way I like to see things done, but if the trade supported Mr Skull and Co, then it might have addressed your point.

Yes it would have meant a hundred or so extra plates, but the way things are going, it's 50/50 as to whether the council may have to issue many many hundreds. :-$


Theres no 50/50 about it, other than in your "bitter" mind, there will be no plates for the forseeable future,

Just because you keep saying it won't make it happen, keep wishing idiot :roll:




I wouldn't bet on it RCFF you see this will not stop and more drivers a joining our ranks. You see RCFF the only way they can get a plate is by challenging the Council. The prospect of having to drive indefinitely with higher and higher rental costs is not what they want.


Put yourself in their shoes who wants to pay £300+ in rentals or 45K to buy a plate meanwhile watching the Ph run amok.


Forget it, RCFF it's only a matter of time whether it will be at our hands or at the mercy of some other challenge somewhere else in the country?


Your day is coming faster than you probably realise, take control of the trade or lose eveything thats your choice, ignore it at your pearl?


Remember who has the most to lose here.


Incidentally I spoke to a driver tonight who was faced with a £300 7 night rental with Com Cab. The only trouble being is that he can't work 7 nights, he told the plate holder he wanted 5 nights because 7 was impractical and he was paying for nights he couldn't' t work. The driver is now on the transfer list.

Strangely enough he has now joined our ranks.
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[Incidentally I spoke to a driver tonight who was faced with a £300 7 night rental with Com Cab. The only trouble being is that he can't work 7 nights, he told the plate holder he wanted 5 nights because 7 was impractical and he was paying for nights he couldn't' t work. The driver is now on the transfer list.

Strangely enough he has now joined our ranks.
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That could apply anywhere though Mr T.

When I used to rent full time, I only worked 4 nights a week.

But if you want to have a cab all the time, thats kinda life.

Whilst you all hope for cheaper rents (although not that much more than London I note), you will never have the perfect rental situation unless your a workaholic and have it on the road every minute your paying for it.

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£300 or £42.85 per night, thats okay, thing is if he did not want to have it for seven nights why did he not get a shorter rental?


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Maybe one of those people who see taxis as a job, I have always thought of it as a business, you pays your money and takes your chance, if it does not work for you, move on.

It's kind of a quaint idea that someone would charge someone that kind of money with the knowledge that the person renting from them could not make enough to pay for it :lol: as I understand it Comcabs have a recently won a couple of big contracts.


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Theres no 50/50 about it, other than in your "bitter" mind, there will be no plates for the forseeable future,

Just because you keep saying it won't make it happen, keep wishing idiot :roll:

On a now defunct forum I had a similar chat with the lads from Dundee.

I very much doubted that Dundee would ever de-limit, and nearly over-night they did. :wink:

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Maybe one of those people who see taxis as a job, I have always thought of it as a business, you pays your money and takes your chance, if it does not work for you, move on.

It's kind of a quaint idea that someone would charge someone that kind of money with the knowledge that the person renting from them could not make enough to pay for it :lol: as I understand it Comcabs have a recently won a couple of big contracts.



What a dickhead you are, William, I hope to have the opportunity to meet you sometime preferably when you have lost the value in your plates and this guy has the opportunity to put on his own plate for £700.

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£300 or £42.85 per night, thats okay, thing is if he did not want to have it for seven nights why did he not get a shorter rental?



Some want you to pay for seven but know you will only work 5-6 nights £50-£60 a night after fuel £80+ a night and thats before you make a buck for yourself.


William I would burn you at the stake.

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William Maitland wrote:
....if the vast majority of people in the trade want to de-limit I dont have a problem with that, but do they? You and Skull both Mentioned that you are talking to drivers, how many Ali, it's a simple question.


It's not a question of simple numbers, it's one of principle. If a group of local firms formed a cartel to drive a competitor out of business, would the position of the authorities be that because the one competitor was in the minority then the majority could do what it pleased? Clearly not. Likewise, under some kind of apartheid system, would it be relevant if those disadvantaged were a numerical minority? No, of course not. From the point of view of simple numbers, in respect of whether or not restricted taxi numbers is desirable, the trade is gerrymandered.



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.... grow up Ali, your obviously a product of some bygone age, a bitter twisted individual who does not realise how lucky he is


That's you William, innit? :D

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... but the fact remains JD nobody has to lift the limit on plates in Scotland...


But the fact also remains that no public authority in Scotland, England or indeed the whole world has to limit taxi numbers.

The big question is whether, in principle, it's right or wrong. And for me it's most certainly the latter. :)

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