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 Post subject: Re: workplace pension!!!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:29 pm 
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Right or wrongly it is this kind of Government over involvement and meddling that puts me off of employing anybody....It's no way to create or encourage jobs from Small business by making the employing of people as difficult and as over regulated than is necessary, Just another Obstacle on the UK road to recovery.


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 Post subject: Re: workplace pension!!!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:10 am 
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My understanding is you as an employer have to offer it, do employees have to accept it?

Slightly more complicated. Firstly,there is a lower earnings limit that as an employer you can choose to use rather than all the employees earnings. So an employer can choose to offer the workplace pension on all earnings or just the earnings over the lower earnings limit. Secondly, ALL employees must be enrolled into the scheme regardless of their earnings. Thirdly, any employee can opt out of contributing to the scheme at any time. If a qualifying employee decides that they want to stay in the scheme then the employer contribution is 1% of the qualifying earnings. The employee contribution can be varied but is a minimum of 1% of earnings.
So if you have an employee earning say £1500 per month and the LEL is approx. £500 per month it means that the employer has to contribute 1% of the £1000 or £10.00. Now add the £10.00 from the employee and the total contribution is £20.00 per month. Now call me a cynical sod if you wish but I hardly thing £20.00 per month is going to build up to any kind of worthwhile pension pot.


So they don't have to accept it?

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 Post subject: Re: workplace pension!!!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:28 am 
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toots wrote:
grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
My understanding is you as an employer have to offer it, do employees have to accept it?

Slightly more complicated. Firstly,there is a lower earnings limit that as an employer you can choose to use rather than all the employees earnings. So an employer can choose to offer the workplace pension on all earnings or just the earnings over the lower earnings limit. Secondly, ALL employees must be enrolled into the scheme regardless of their earnings. Thirdly, any employee can opt out of contributing to the scheme at any time. If a qualifying employee decides that they want to stay in the scheme then the employer contribution is 1% of the qualifying earnings. The employee contribution can be varied but is a minimum of 1% of earnings.
So if you have an employee earning say £1500 per month and the LEL is approx. £500 per month it means that the employer has to contribute 1% of the £1000 or £10.00. Now add the £10.00 from the employee and the total contribution is £20.00 per month. Now call me a cynical sod if you wish but I hardly thing £20.00 per month is going to build up to any kind of worthwhile pension pot.


So they don't have to accept it?

No, but an employer is not allowed to pressurise employees not to accept.

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 Post subject: Re: workplace pension!!!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:05 pm 
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grandad wrote:
I used to save £50 a month in a pension fund from when I was 20 until I was 38 but then, following the breakdown of my first marriage with the debts from that and the incompetence of the CSA, I had to go bankrupt. This resulted in my pension pot being taken to go towards the creditors. Therefore I no longer believe in the system.


Dad contributed for 40 years

he got £30 a month when he retired which lifted him out of the rent rebate bracket (next door never paid into any pension nor worked and got the same state pension as dad PLUS rents paid) system? what system?

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 Post subject: Re: workplace pension!!!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:12 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
grandad wrote:
I used to save £50 a month in a pension fund from when I was 20 until I was 38 but then, following the breakdown of my first marriage with the debts from that and the incompetence of the CSA, I had to go bankrupt. This resulted in my pension pot being taken to go towards the creditors. Therefore I no longer believe in the system.


Dad contributed for 40 years

he got £30 a month when he retired which lifted him out of the rent rebate bracket (next door never paid into any pension nor worked and got the same state pension as dad PLUS rents paid) system? what system?


that's why i don't bother :lol: :lol: fook pensions, im 53 now , my mam & dad own a 200k house, then there is the insurance ( just going up !) only me & our kid so split that & job done , :wink: , once they go i will retire


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 Post subject: Re: workplace pension!!!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:51 pm 
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ven2112 wrote:
that's why i don't bother :lol: :lol: fook pensions, im 53 now , my mam & dad own a 200k house, then there is the insurance ( just going up !) only me & our kid so split that & job done , :wink: , once they go i will retire


yeah... till they go into a care home at £600 a week EACH...then you have to sell the house and watch the £200k become zilch damn quick

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