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New EU court blow to Uber over French taxi case

Uber played down the non-binding opinion from an advocate general at the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ), saying it applied only to a service using unlicensed drivers known as UberPOP, which it had already discontinued in France.

Uber was fined 800,000 euros ($908,000) last year and two of its executives were also fined for running an illegal taxi service with UberPOP. The case is currently being appealed and an outcome is expected at the end of the year.


BRUSSELS: Uber suffered a new setback in Europe on Tuesday when a European Union court adviser said France was entitled to charge local managers of the U.S. ride-hailing app firm with running an illegal taxi service.

Uber played down the non-binding opinion from an advocate general at the Court of Justice of the European Union (ECJ), saying it applied only to a service using unlicensed drivers known as UberPOP, which it had already discontinued in France.

Judges will make a final ruling later this year. However, they generally follow the advice of their advocates general and the comments come two months after another opinion, which rejected Uber's argument that it was only a digital platform and so subject to less regulation than a transport firm.

The European court battles are being fought as Uber struggles with last month's departure of co-founder and chief executive Travis Kalanick following a string of scandals that have hit a global star of the U.S. tech industry.

The latest case before the ECJ was referred to it by a French court in Lille and concerns a 2014 French law on taxis and chauffeured services which makes it a criminal offence to organise illegal taxi services and sets restrictions on the use of software to find customers in the street.

Uber had argued that it was not a taxi company and that the criminal fines imposed on two of its French managers were not valid because the French taxi law infringed EU rules under which limitations on digital services in the bloc require prior approval from Brussels.

Advocate General Maciej Szpunar, who also provided the opinion in the Spanish case in May, disagreed and upheld France's right to prohibit and punish illegal transport activities like UberPOP without seeking EU approval of its law.

"Member states may prohibit and punish, as a matter of criminal law, the illegal exercise of transport activities in the context of the UberPOP service, without notifying the Commission of the draft law in advance," he said in statement.

Uber said it now only operates in France with licensed cab drivers, as it does in many of its main European markets.

Uber was fined 800,000 euros ($908,000) last year and two of its executives were also fined for running an illegal taxi service with UberPOP. The case is currently being appealed and an outcome is expected at the end of the year.

Notably, Szpunar also said that member states remained free to punish illegal transport activities provided by intermediaries such as Uber without asking for Brussels' green light regardless of whether Uber was considered a transport or an information society service.

Damien Geradin, a professor of competition law and economics at Tilburg University in the Netherlands, said the impact of a potential ruling along the lines of Tuesday's opinion would have little impact on Uber's operations in France, but would have wider ramifications for how it is regulated across Europe.

"More generally, the significance of the opinion is that it shows once again that Szpunar resists any qualification that Uber's services can be considered as information society services," Geradin said.

"This is a missed opportunity as these provisions would protect Uber against discriminatory or disproportionate rules adopted in the member states, while still allowing member states to regulate the underlying services (provided by the drivers) to protect riders, drivers and third parties."


source: http://auto.economictimes.indiatimes.co ... e/59457167

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Along with this kick in the b******* for Uber,it was announced today that an in depth investigation into Uber working and payment practices is to be instigated by the select committee.


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Along with this kick in the b******* for Uber,it was announced today that an in depth investigation into Uber working and payment practices is to be instigated by the select committee.

The Select committees never do anything do they.

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Its ok - when we leave the EU those meddling courts wont interfere with Uber in this country - things will be great :lol:

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Its ok - when we leave the EU those meddling courts wont interfere with Uber in this country - things will be great :lol:

If you say so :D

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bloody EU interfering with our bent tory politicians, how dare they

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bloody EU interfering with our bent tory politicians, how dare they
Was there any body in today EU that is

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Was there any body in today EU that is



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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/684 ... pean-union :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/684282/Germany-Eu-referendum-Dexit-Brexit-Angela-Merkel-european-union



That article is a year old, Merkel will win the election like macron did in France, the EU isn't going anywhere -.

The Daily Express ffs ?

That's the paper that told me we were going to get minus 20 temperatures last winter and drought this summer, where my garden has been flooded twice.

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Big fight in Brussels yesterday because nobody turned in..

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Big fight in Brussels yesterday because nobody turned in..


and they fall asleep in the house of commons / lords

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/684282/Germany-Eu-referendum-Dexit-Brexit-Angela-Merkel-european-union



That article is a year old, Merkel will win the election like macron did in France, the EU isn't going anywhere -.

The Daily Express ffs ?

That's the paper that told me we were going to get minus 20 temperatures last winter and drought this summer, where my garden has been flooded twice.

That was off the EU website

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MR T wrote:
That was off the EU website


that article was written in the express in July 2016

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captain cab wrote:
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that article was written in the express in July 2016

I found it next to the EU Accounts :D

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