edders23 wrote:
The point I was making is that the EU has to understand that no deal is bad for them and the best way to do that is to offer them a vision of what no deal might mean for them and Donald trumps new tariffs apply to countries trading under WTO rules so surely we can set our own.
Theresa may is trying to cherry pick a deal that suits all of our MP's which the EU resents and has already said is unworkable so lets offer them an even worse outcome and see what they might offer us as a potential deal that they will accept otherwise we could be forced to accept a deal which is heavily weighted in favour of EU businesses
Firstly, one of the rules of article 50 is that the country leaving cant start negotiating trade deals with other countries until they have actually left. At the point of leaving we can start negotiations on other trade deals but not before.
Secondly, in case you haven't noticed the EU have not put any proposals on the table of what they would like to see come out of the deal. We put proposals forward and they knock them back until we actually propose something that they agree with. There seems to be no compromise from the EU side. I think it would be very foolish to "threaten" them with anything that wont happen. I think they are well aware of the implications of a no deal. I also believe that a no deal will harm the EU more than it will harm us in the long run so I expect that at some point the EU will change their stance.
The best answer to the Irish border, and the only real way of sorting it, would be to convince the Republic to also leave the EU and the only way that it will happen is if we make a very quick success of things after we leave.