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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:07 pm 
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25 vehicles, 59 drivers, a cat, and seven goldfish.


No doubt you get more sense out of the latter. :D

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Three operators: One despatch, one telephonist, one admin (who can also take bookings in peaks)

25 vehicles, 59 drivers, a cat, and seven goldfish.


Hello Andy - thanks for the clarification - now, before everyone gets uppity, I am not going to give pricing out on a public forum - the cost are very dependant upon the features required - for instance: GPS, Sat/Nav, CallBack, CLI auto-fill, Route & Pricing estimation - I am more than happy to discuss these and quote people individually but you are going to have call me on 01223 421144 first. After all, I don't know anyone here from Adam.

System pricing includes all the PC's and networking equipment needed to run, plus UPS's, a hardware firewall, auto-updating Anti-Virus Software, driver, operator & admin training and the supply and installation of the handsets in the cars. Each handset can have up to 5 user profiles so, in your case you would be good for 125 different drivers.

Customers need to provide a broadband connection with a static IP address.

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Rob Mc

ps: can't do anything for the fish at the moment - can the cat wear a headset ? :wink:


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I understand you can't give confidential info on TDO Rob, but could you give us an idea of how much more, or how much less, you system is compared to the market leaders, in terms of a percentage.

Either top or bottom of the range, like for like.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:33 pm 
Rob McCulloch wrote:
Andy7 wrote:
Three operators: One despatch, one telephonist, one admin (who can also take bookings in peaks)

25 vehicles, 59 drivers, a cat, and seven goldfish.


Hello Andy - thanks for the clarification - now, before everyone gets uppity, I am not going to give pricing out on a public forum - the cost are very dependant upon the features required - for instance: GPS, Sat/Nav, CallBack, CLI auto-fill, Route & Pricing estimation - I am more than happy to discuss these and quote people individually but you are going to have call me on 01223 421144 first. After all, I don't know anyone here from Adam.

System pricing includes all the PC's and networking equipment needed to run, plus UPS's, a hardware firewall, auto-updating Anti-Virus Software, driver, operator & admin training and the supply and installation of the handsets in the cars. Each handset can have up to 5 user profiles so, in your case you would be good for 125 different drivers.

Customers need to provide a broadband connection with a static IP address.

Regards
Rob Mc

ps: can't do anything for the fish at the moment - can the cat wear a headset ? :wink:



bit shy arnt we?

ADAM


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:00 am 
When one goes shopping, one usually looks at the price labels. FIRST.

It's like those adverts in the papers; if there is no price given, ignore it and move on to one where there is a price, cos the one without the price is already too expensive.


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Yes Andy7(?).

It's like that old (or not so old) saying:

If you need to ask the price, then you can't afford it!

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Alex wrote:
I understand you can't give confidential info on TDO Rob, but could you give us an idea of how much more, or how much less, you system is compared to the market leaders, in terms of a percentage.

Either top or bottom of the range, like for like.

Alex


While it is difficult to give a like for like figure because the system operates in a fundamentally different way, we believe we are anywhere from 25% to 50% less than Auriga for, hmmm, 100% more functionality :)

From the conversations we have had with fleet owners, (even those that have bought from our competitors and regretted it), a lot of the pricing made publicly available is what I would call low balling, "...hmm, now let's see, for 60 cars that'll only be £300 per data head...".

What you don't see or hear is the actual unpack, install, connect, configure, tune the radio/s, train drivers and office staff, interface to the PBX, provide the PC's (with original install disks :o ) etc etc numbers. Strangely, they are invariably much more than our "inclusive cost".

Now, we may be charting a lone course in this market by quoting a per vehicle figure and sticking to it but so be it. All of our customers could see beyond the price and appreciated that the way we do things has not only improved their turnover but also expanded their operating base and allowed them to run the business - not the other way round.

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Yes Rob, as I think we were saying in a thread with Jason Cole recently (who sadly didn't come back and reply to the points made), these products are complex and impossible for the customer to evaluate properly before they buy.

Plus the pricing structures are complex, as what he said (I think!) was that some products are cheaper up-front but less well developed (and thus are more expensive to maintain) while others are dearer to buy but require less maintenance.

Then of course there's the usual problems of basic pricing and functionality and good and bad products.

The end result is not a transparent market from the consumers' point of view.

Mabye someone should start a publication called 'What taxi despatch system?".

Or maybe not!

Dusty :?


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Dusty Bin wrote:
Yes Rob, as I think we were saying in a thread with Jason Cole recently (who sadly didn't come back and reply to the points made), these products are complex and impossible for the customer to evaluate properly before they buy.


Well again that is where we are trying very hard to be different. We offer a free trial - (subject to a fully returnable deposit!) so that prospects can see and try for themselves - all they need to get up and running is a suitable broadband connection.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 2:29 am 
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Wharfie wrote:

poor Rob, being led like Steve from National Cabline!
he will soon learn selling over the forum but hey cordac was the first to use the pdx and it was looked over with interest by someone manning a rival stand at Sandown.

the theory works ask Mick.

the first cordac went in at Sheffield I am told?
Wharfie



Someone help me out here.
Confused of Cambridge :?


sorry no help confusion must persist, you started it

Wharfie

R.



I am happy to unconfuse - show me where and I'll do my best to enlighten but at least get our company name and product right.

R.



Rob,
I knew I had seen your product b4, it was this years Donnington show and I spoke to a very bright salesman, he told me the first system that had been set up was in Sheffield.

We told him the system we had, behind us was a company from edingburgh, listening who was having trouble with diplomat, now I keep all the important numbers of people who interest me in the taxi tonight I pulled out the cordac card given to me by that bright salesman well what a coincidence the salesman was-----Rob Mcullock,

so what have I got wrong about the product?

I have said its good, is that true?

I have said the first system was set up in Sheffield, is that true?

I have said it was the first to use PDX is that true?

what have I got wrong about this product that that bright salesman told me?

Wharfie


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Wharfie, you haven't got any of it wrong.

Yes it is VERY good - especially for what we charge.
Yes Sheffield were our first customer.
Yes we were the first with an XDA/GPRS based solution.
Yes I should stop wearing lightbulbs at tradeshows :)

Now, where is that poor soul with the Diplomat system's number? Must call and see if he is ready to do a deal now.

Later
R.


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Rob

To save on costs etc etc, is there anyway your system can be used along side the Auriga one?

In that I mean, get rid of the brick in my car and use your stuff, but not have to up date the rest, apart from the software.

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Sounds an unlikely scenario Andy. They use entirely different transmission protocols. But, as they say, anything is possible.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:29 am 
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Rob

To save on costs etc etc, is there anyway your system can be used along side the Auriga one?

In that I mean, get rid of the brick in my car and use your stuff, but not have to up date the rest, apart from the software.



Sussex.

the Auriga is based on technology with dionosour [edited by admin] on it, Cordac use internet based technology and palm top computers.

now if you could use Auriga, you wouldnt need cordac. cos you would just get kit from o2

alas laddie if yer insist on good ol Auriga yer need the brick as well.


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Sussex Man wrote:
Rob

To save on costs etc etc, is there anyway your system can be used along side the Auriga one?

In that I mean, get rid of the brick in my car and use your stuff, but not have to up date the rest, apart from the software.


If I read your question right, you want to swap out the Auriga data head for an XDA and somehow interface this to your existing Auriga back-end.
I'm afraid it is not going to happen. :( That's not to say it is not possible, just not practicable.

The way our stuff works is radically different from anything else being used at the moment. Our booking screen/despatch code and comms protocols are truely multi-tasking and therefore will only run on Windows XP. We could probably do it if Auriga gave us the specs for their protocols...but somehow I don't think they would be willing :wink:

Also, since I cut my teeth on DOS and CP/M a hundred years ago and hated it then, this would be a very backward step for us. Nah, much better you write off the investment, (it must be depreciated to nothing by now) and start a fresh with us. Can I interest you in a trial ? :)

Rob Mc


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