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EU - Remain or Leave?
Remain in the EU 28%  28%  [ 12 ]
Leave the EU 72%  72%  [ 31 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:51 pm 
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Not worried in the slightest.

Parliament has already voted to leave at the end of March 2019.

Nothing is going to overturn that.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:26 am 
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Not worried in the slightest.

Parliament has already voted to leave at the end of March 2019.

Nothing is going to overturn that.

There was a Labour chap on the tele yesterday who said that if there is a general election and Labour win it they would immediatly revoke article 50 so that they have more time to "negotiate" a better deal that will keep us in the single market and the customs union. So not much chance of getting elected then as most of the leavers were Labour voters.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:25 pm 
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this far down the line the EU would have us over the proverbial barrel and the price of the uk staying would be enormously high compared to the other 27

Our best course now would be to stay in the customs union and single market and pay the EU their £10 to £15 billion a year royalty for that right to preserve uk jobs because rest assured France, Germany and all will make sure British exports to Europe suffer even more than they are doing now whilst we will of course do nothing to harm all their imports

Or suffer 10 years of pain whilst we set up a commonwealth economic community to rival USA china and europe

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:10 pm 
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There was a Labour chap on the tele yesterday who said that if there is a general election and Labour win

Two massive IFs.

Neither will happen by the 31/03/19.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:21 pm 
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There was a Labour chap on the tele yesterday who said that if there is a general election and Labour win

Two massive IFs.

Neither will happen by the 31/03/19.



But have we not extended that date ?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:29 pm 
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There was a Labour chap on the tele yesterday who said that if there is a general election and Labour win

Two massive IFs.

Neither will happen by the 31/03/19.



But have we not extended that date ?

No.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:02 pm 
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But have we not extended that date ?

Nope, that date has been set by parliament and only parliament can change that.

The transition period can be changed, but not the 31/03/18 leave date.

That's why the like of Farage and the Tory Brexiteers are quite relaxed, despite May fudging things.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:42 pm 
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But have we not extended that date ?

Nope, that date has been set by parliament and only parliament can change that.

The transition period can be changed, but not the 31/03/18 leave date.

That's why the like of Farage and the Tory Brexiteers are quite relaxed, despite May fudging things.

Hang on, it is the Tory Brexiteers who are sending in letters trying to oust May. one was on the tele this morning saying that they wanted to leave with the other deal that is on the table. namely WTR. That was her expression , what she meant was no deal.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:38 pm 
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Hang on, it is the Tory Brexiteers who are sending in letters trying to oust May. one was on the tele this morning saying that they wanted to leave with the other deal that is on the table. namely WTR. That was her expression , what she meant was no deal.

They don't want May's deal, but they are not in the slightest bit bothered about us not leaving.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:40 am 
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Hang on, it is the Tory Brexiteers who are sending in letters trying to oust May. one was on the tele this morning saying that they wanted to leave with the other deal that is on the table. namely WTR. That was her expression , what she meant was no deal.

They don't want May's deal, but they are not in the slightest bit bothered about us not leaving.

There are several groups who are not happy with the deal. Some think it would be better to stay in but the ones sending letters in want to leave with no deal.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:31 pm 
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There will never be a no deal deal.

Even if we leave with no new deal, we will leave under WTO regs.

Not saying WTO are fab, but they are better than no deal.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:56 am 
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There will never be a no deal deal.

Even if we leave with no new deal, we will leave under WTO regs.

Not saying WTO are fab, but they are better than no deal.

Not for the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic. If there is no deal and we have to work on WTO rules there will have to be a hard border in Ireland.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:59 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
There will never be a no deal deal.

Even if we leave with no new deal, we will leave under WTO regs.

Not saying WTO are fab, but they are better than no deal.

Not for the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic. If there is no deal and we have to work on WTO rules there will have to be a hard border in Ireland.


Why does there have to be a hard border?
Who will put it there?
Why can’t they just leave it as it is, there know hard border in Switzerland?


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will have to be a hard border in Ireland.

We don't have to have a hard border, we can keep it just as it is now.

However if the Republic wish to put a border up then that's down to them.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:56 am 
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will have to be a hard border in Ireland.

We don't have to have a hard border, we can keep it just as it is now.

However if the Republic wish to put a border up then that's down to them.

Explain how it will work with tarrifs and movement of people when they come in if there is no hard border?

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