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 Post subject: Re: Medical woes.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:18 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Nowadays any medical practice should have access to your medical records, if you allow them access.

I think it's something to do with this computer lark. :wink:



practises and hospitals arent connected

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 Post subject: Re: Medical woes.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:48 pm 
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Bloodknock wrote:
The Scottish parliament went off half baked when the Bin lorry driver killed those people in glasgow, something do with his poor medical state or fitness to drive, anyhoos, without proper consultation or advice the Holyrood muppets decided to make a reccomendation to the LA's that we all needed D4 type levels of medical checks but failed to grasp that they were asking or something no GP could give.....an Opinion on how Fit you are, hardly surprising then that GPs often wont do these medicals, yes they'll give you a D4 medical certicicate, but the councils wont accept a D4 even though it's proves the levels of fitness they seek.

No the council want the GP to fill in a different piece of amatuer council paperwork to simply say that in the GP's opinion your fit to drive and have attained D4 levels.


Indeed, but no different to the scenario in the St Helens piece I linked to earlier - GPs won't want the ultimate responsibility of declaring a driver 'fit and proper', but obviously LAs would prefer they did, thus trying to avoid the blame if it all goes pear-shaped, Glasgow bin lorry-style.

But ultimately, as things stand, legally the onus is on LAs to decide fit and proper status.

And to be fair to the Scottish Parliament (for a change) I doubt if the scenario overall up here is a whole lot different south of the border, as indeed the St Helens article demonstrates:

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 Post subject: Re: Medical woes.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:23 am 
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As no-one can predict what MIGHT happen, whats the point?


100% fit lean non-smokers non-drinking folk have heart attacks and strokes

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 Post subject: Re: Medical woes.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:59 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
As no-one can predict what MIGHT happen, whats the point?


100% fit lean non-smokers non-drinking folk have heart attacks and strokes



Yes,more younger non smokers non drinkers die than do smokers and drinkers.


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 Post subject: Re: Medical woes.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:39 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
As no-one can predict what MIGHT happen, whats the point?

100% fit lean non-smokers non-drinking folk have heart attacks and strokes


Indeed, but it's a question of *minimising* the risk based on imposing reasonable standards for driving - I mean, if you could only read a number plate from two metres, would it be reasonable to allow that person to drive a car? (As opposed the current legal requirement of 20 metres.)

By the same token, bus and HGV drivers (and most cabbies) are held to a higher standard because they're deemed a higher risk because of the job they do.

And older drivers considered higher risk as well, which doesn't seem unreasonable - everyone's driving ability deteriorates with age - it's just a question of assessing that risk in a reasonable manner.

But no system will ever be foolproof, as today's news article from Edinburgh arguably demonstrates.


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