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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:40 pm 
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This is on PHTM, TaxiPoint and a couple of trade blogs.

I suspect it's a UPHD press release, so should be read with that in mind.


NOTTINGHAM PRIVATE HIRE DRIVERS WIN RIGHT TO WORK MULTIPLE PLATFORMS

https://www.phtm.co.uk/news/2546/phtm-n ... -platforms

· Private hire drivers will now be allowed to work simultaneously for multiple platforms, such as local companies alongside Uber.

· The move could see work opportunities and income improve for thousands of private hire drivers in the Nottingham area.

· Licensing conditions changed following a campaign by local private hire drivers, which won support from local MPs and then Nottingham City Council.

Nottingham private hire drivers will now be allowed to work for multiple app-based platforms, as in other major cities in the UK. This change in licensing conditions, which was voted for unanimously by Nottingham City Council's Licencing Committee in December, was temporarily delayed by a failed legal challenge from Nottingham's largest private hire car provider DG Cars but has now come into effect.

Azeem Hanif, chair, UPHD Nottingham branch, says: "This is great news, not just for Nottingham city's 2,500 private hire drivers but for customer safety. Under the old system, drivers were being forced to work longer hours for less pay, just to make ends meet. Shorter shifts and more control for drivers means safer journeys for customers. Councillor Toby Neal has worked hard alongside MPs and UPHD members to put public safety and drivers' rights at the heart of this process. The result for Nottingham will be safer streets and fairer conditions for private hire drivers, so we couldn't be happier."

Drivers will still be required to obtain and hold a current driver and vehicle licence for each driver, but will no longer be prohibited from working for more than one provider at the same time, giving these precarious workers more control over their income and the structure of their working lives. The change follows a grassroots campaign by members of the Nottingham branch of the United Private Hire Drivers (UPHD) branch of the Independent Workers of Great Britain (IWGB) union.

The restriction barring private hire drivers from working on multiple platforms was one of the first issues raised by members of the Nottingham UPHD branch after its founding in November 2017. When the branch discovered that there was no basis for these restrictions in government legislation and that in other major cities it is common for private hire drivers to work simultaneously for multiple platforms, a campaign for reform was launched in Nottingham.

The campaign soon garnered support from local Labour MPs, MP for North Nottingham, Alex Norris and MP for South Nottingham, Lillian Greenwood, in accordance with the party's manifesto commitment to support precarious and gig economy workers. Proposals developed by Nottingham UPHD were revised in dialogue with Nottingham City Council and in December 2019 voted for unanimously by the Licencing Committee.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 9:45 pm 
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...a failed legal challenge from Nottingham's largest private hire car provider DG Cars...

DG's recruitment blurb says:

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You are your own boss. You will start and finish when it feels best for you.

Obviously 'being your own boss' doesn't extend to working for whoever you want when you want [-(

If drivers legally challenged their self-employed status I doubt if DG's opposition to this change would help DG's case [-(


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:12 am 
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Instead they'll just be asking for their sets back.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:29 pm 
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was temporarily delayed by a failed legal challenge from Nottingham's largest private hire car provider DG Cars but has now come into effect.

Was always a crazy council rule, that didn't stand a chance if challenged in court.

However there is nothing stopping individual circuits having a similar rule.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:12 am 
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Was always a crazy council rule, that didn't stand a chance if challenged in court.

However there is nothing stopping individual circuits having a similar rule.

Indeed, but that wouldn't help their case if they were to be legally challenged on the self-employment thing.

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Azeem Hanif, chair, UPHD Nottingham branch, says: "This is great news, not just for Nottingham city's 2,500 private hire drivers but for customer safety. Under the old system, drivers were being forced to work longer hours for less pay, just to make ends meet. Shorter shifts and more control for drivers means safer journeys for customers.

What a load of nonsense these people speak sometimes.

I don't doubt it'll help some drivers, but at the end of the day, if every driver did the same then would any of them be hugely better off?

It's a bit like a town or city with two or three major players, they all amalgamate, so although there's more customers, there's more cars as well, and in the final analysis it's just the same cake shared out to the same drivers.

I don't doubt that it all helps make things a bit more efficient (less dead mileage, most obviously), but it's not going to change the world.


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Indeed, but that wouldn't help their case if they were to be legally challenged on the self-employment thing.

Most operators only worry about next week.

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