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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:48 am 
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We have a chap who would like to come and work for us but he has a problem with reading and writing. He is already licensed in Rutland and has been doing the job without issue for quite a while.
under the DDA would our Council have to make allowances for him in our tests or can they just refuse to license him?

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 4:14 pm 
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You need to pose the question to the Licensing Office. I don't think there is National Guidance on this so probably some Authorities will and others wont.

I believe they have an Oral Theory Test for Dyslexics on the Driving Test.

I would hope they would be accommodating but if they aren't, just embarrass them in the Local Press.

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 6:38 pm 
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under the DDA would our Council have to make allowances for him in our tests or can they just refuse to license him?

If he has a proper diagnosis then the council would have to make allowances, and quite rightly too.

We had a fella down here who needed a wheelchair outside of his cab, and our council made many allowances for him.

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 12:38 am 
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I’d say at least 95% of my customers can’t read. (They certainly can’t read “DO NOT PULL HANDLE- AUTOMATIC DOOR “) #-o


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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 8:00 am 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
You need to pose the question to the Licensing Office.

I have sent them an email. I wanted to see if anyone on here had come accross similar so if the Council have an issue I have something to show them.

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 11:58 am 
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A very close family member works for a government agency that deals with the court service.

He has a very mild level of dyslexic. His employers are fantastic and go way above any legal requirements in helping him do his job.

I would assume councils should do likewise, albeit they don’t employ us.

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:30 pm 
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A very close family member works for a government agency that deals with the court service.

He has a very mild level of dyslexic. His employers are fantastic and go way above any legal requirements in helping him do his job.

I would assume councils should do likewise, albeit they don’t employ us.


why is dyslexia so hard to spell?

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:56 pm 
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If you go to the clap clinic, you come out lessdicsic.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:31 am 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
If you go to the clap clinic, you come out lessdicsic.


So by your own reasoning then if you went into a Brothel you'd go in Lessicdic.


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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:00 pm 
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grandad wrote:
We have a chap who would like to come and work for us but he has a problem with reading and writing. He is already licensed in Rutland and has been doing the job without issue for quite a while.

Sounds a bit like the 'no one has ever complained about a taxi fare in Melton, ever'* :-o

*Except, it would seem, when drivers are charging £1 per bag of groceries :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:01 pm 
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Anyway, hate to sound hard-hearted, but presumably the logic of the replies on here mean that absolutely everyone should have a badge?

I mean, generally speaking, if someone can't pass whatever tests the council administers because of their *poor* reading, writing or arithmetical skills, then they *don't* get a badge.

But if someone has even less skill then they *do* get a badge? :-s

Never mind, though. I'm starting my new job in brain surgery next week. Don't have a clue about it, but, you know...


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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:19 pm 
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We have to bear in mind the DDA is the law, and councils have a duty to take into consideration anyone's disability and make reasonable allowances.

Would someone not being able to read and write be classed as a disability? I'm not sure.

I also think there are plenty of classes available for older adults who struggle with reading and writing. Many of them free of charge.

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:42 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Would someone not being able to read and write be classed as a disability? I'm not sure.

Indeed, that's the crux of the issue. But to me it seems a bit like saying that you need to pass a basic English test to get a badge, but if someone doesn't speak a word of English then they should get a badge anyway because they're disabled :?

Reminds me a bit of that article a few years ago about someone in the trade* complaining that a knowledge test discriminated against people who don't know the area :-o

That's a bit like me complaining that requiring a degree in medicine to practice brain surgery discrimates against people like me who can't do brain surgery, but would like to be a brain surgeon :-o

*I think he was a proprietor or operator, surprise, surprise :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
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Sussex wrote:
Would someone not being able to read and write be classed as a disability? I'm not sure.

Well a quick interrogation of my friend Google and I got this:

Dyslexia is recognised as a disability within the meaning of the legislation (DDA 2010) because individuals with the condition are considered to be at a substantial disadvantage within the workplace when compared to those who do not suffer from the condition.

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 Post subject: Re: reading and writing
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:09 pm 
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I don't think the chap is dyslexic. he has never learned to read and write. He is now around 60 years old.

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