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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 8:13 pm 
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You really do need to get a grip otherwise you will be unable to debate issues properly because of the hatred you feel against a group of people fighting for some beneficial changes not delivered by the OFT report. Hopefully the T&G will be able to lobby government enough to offer them more far reaching alternatives than the completely in-effective OFT report.


I'm grateful for your advice.

I'm also grateful for your opinion about my hatred of certain people.

And as is par for the course, you are wrong on both cases.

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the British parlamentary system has always had consultation built in

kin ell and some call you a lawyer!


No Wharfy, not some call me a lawyer, you do.

So you are either wrong on that, or wrong on the issue of consultation, or possibly both.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:31 pm 
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What is clear however is that by reorting to schoolyard reactions you have absolutely NO evidence that the T&G have acted inproperly in any way whatsoever.


I cant speak for him. But i no that the t&gwu have stopped me getting a station pass. to me that is acting very improperly.


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Clearly their 'managed growth' and 'free and open access' policies, are not part of your local T&G's rule book.

What a surprise. :? :?

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Not clear at all actually SM. What is clear however is that by reorting to schoolyard reactions you have absolutely NO evidence that the T&G have acted inproperly in any way whatsoever.


Now who's twisting. :?

Please point out to me exactly where I said the T&G was/is acting improperly.

There is a huge difference between acting stupidly and unfairly, and acting improperly. You might not be able to work it out, but please take it from me, there is.



So in Sussex telling lies and giving out wrong information is deemed to be proper conduct then.

Expains an awful lot.


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Expains an awful lot.


To you I expect it does. Thankfully no-one else is you.

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"But a history of saying that people shouldn't get plates for nothing, and then asking for a saloon plate from your council, whilst your colleagues (and perhaps fellow T&G members) have to buy WAVs, to me stinks of hypocrisy.

But clearly not to you." quote from SM

Please provide evidence to substanciate this allegation.

I know you have a real problem providing evidence for your accusations so again I won't hold my breath.


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Now which Mr Guest are you?

Are you 1, 2, 3...............?

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so again I won't hold my breath.


That's a shame, because if you did, I would make you wait a very long time.

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What is clear however is that by reorting to schoolyard reactions you have absolutely NO evidence that the T&G have acted inproperly in any way whatsoever.


I cant speak for him. But i no that the t&gwu have stopped me getting a station pass. to me that is acting very improperly.


Mr Cgull could you please explain how a union stopped you from getting a station permit.

The reason I ask is that the "free and open access policy" would allow you to gain access to the station without the need for a permit.

I don't understand why people can't give more information when posting, particularly when a thread develops around the inactivities of a certain group.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:47 pm 
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Now which Mr Guest are you?

Are you 1, 2, 3...............?


Only taking advantage of your sites policy of allowing anonymous postings. If you get confused maybe you should review your own policies.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 8:53 pm 
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Expains an awful lot.


To you I expect it does. Thankfully no-one else is you.


Unfortunatly we need to try and second guess where you are coming from SM solely because you fail to be forthcoming when a request for more information is made.

You expect everything to be fair to you, even if it proves to be massively un-fair to someone else.

This is why you cannot and will not provide any evidence to your own accusations. Then when you continue to make further allegations you resort to childish namecalling in an attempt to deflect the thread away from your own lack of action and misleading advice.


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Only taking advantage of your sites policy of allowing anonymous postings. If you get confused maybe you should review your own policies.


Well as much as I would wish it to be MY site, and MY policy, it isn't.

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Unfortunatly we need to try and second guess where you are coming from SM solely because you fail to be forthcoming when a request for more information is made.

You expect everything to be fair to you, even if it proves to be massively un-fair to someone else.

This is why you cannot and will not provide any evidence to your own accusations. Then when you continue to make further allegations you resort to childish namecalling in an attempt to deflect the thread away from your own lack of action and misleading advice.


You can take as many guesses as you wish Mr Guest 1/2/3???

The reason I'm on TDO is that the system isn't fair to me and countless thousands more, although hopefully not for much longer.

As for you last paragraph Mr Guest 1/2/3??? your point please, or are you just doing what you accuse me of?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:18 pm 
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"But a history of saying that people shouldn't get plates for nothing, and then asking for a saloon plate from your council, whilst your colleagues (and perhaps fellow T&G members) have to buy WAVs, to me stinks of hypocrisy.

But clearly not to you." quote from SM

Please provide evidence to substanciate this allegation.

I know you have a real problem providing evidence for your accusations so again I won't hold my breath.


So I suppose this allegation is made against me AGAIN. OK then I'll tell tell you AGAIN what actually happened.
We made a request to the council to suspend the issuance of new licenses as in the past 3 years we have seen H/C numbers rise from 87 to 254. The council claimed that they wouldn't do this as they believed their was signifigant un-met demand. We asked for a survey, they said they couldn't afford one, we pointed out that the trade paid £197,760.80 per year in licensing fee's and requested information as to where this money had gone as we had also seen staffing levels drop. They declined to answer. I then discovered that one of the saloon plates had been revoked and had not been re-allocated. I questioned why this plate hadn't been allocated to the person at the top of the H/C saloon plate waiting list as if there was a claimed "un-met demand" the council were indeed adding to it by not re-allocating this plate. I even suggested that this plate be released on a non-transferable basis to allow people waiting on the list an oppertunity to gain a plate free from the council earlier.
It turns out however that the councils waiting list was disposed of when they deregulated numbers on the provision of a WAV and no such list therefore existed so they couldn't re-issue the plate as they didn't know who was top of the list. I requested that the list was saught and the plate was re-issued to the person at the top of the list, they claimed they couldn't as the list no longer existed, I then requested that a new list was formed. This could only be done upon a request from the trade to the licensing committee so I made the request there and then. Exactly how the list would be reformed was never discussed and we are still awaiting committee time to discuss this issue.

Now what happened was certain people assumed that because I had made the request I was insisting that the plate was given to me, not true, I just wanted the plate to be re-issued to the person who had waited, in good faith for the longest.
SM your hatred for me and the T&G is well known, so to claim some of the statements you have rewcently made are untrue is total bollocks. The Guests who have commented on your conduct are well founded in their requests but your responses will never ever be heard on here as basically you are a self centred [edited by admin].

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