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A driver can drive any cab he is allowed access too. Access which is totally dependent on the number of plates issued, the number of shifts available and those who control both i.e. the council and the plate holder.





Come on Wayne you will have to do better than that.

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Wayne wrote:
cream.

Give me £40,000 and I will buy one then again why would I want to pay £40,000 for something others paid £700 for?

Strange there's that £40,000 artificial plate value again Wayne where does this come from?

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Access is dependant upon the number of people looking for jobs.

Just because a factory is at full employment doesnt mean it will open another one.

Anyway, thats not what I actually meant, your twisting. The impression you give is confusing on this point, personally I think its deliberate.

The second flaw is the charge of the ‘cartel’ exploiting and victimising customers by forcing them to pay over the market value for the taxi service.

Taxi fares are and always have been set by the local authority that is elected by the electorate. The local trade may suggest an increase in fares, but increases have to be justified before local authorities. The standard practice is for the treasury departments of local authorities to give an opinion and advise councillors accordingly.

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£300 for a weeks shift is crazy money.
unless you are the owner.
there was a time when the unions looked after the workers.
sh** im starting to sound like someesle.

It would be here too Cgull, but isnt it dependent upon what people earn?

If I were to rent out my HC's at that, I'd soon lose my drivers, so why isnt this the case in Edinburgh?

Are we presuming drivers in Edinburgh are stupid? Are the 'cartel' owners stupid enough to risk losing their serfs?

something aint quite right.

If a drivers rent was £300 and he grossed £1000 to £1200 per week would it still be expensive?

Captain Cab

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Drivers who already earn a living driving a plate holders taxi is totally dependent on the number of plates issued the limited amount of shifts available and those who control both i.e. the council and the plate holder.

If a driver has access to his own plate he does not need access to someone else’s taxi because he can drive his own.


One point at a time Wayne

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Your becoming confused, so I'll slow down a little.

You stated the ‘cartel’ operates to the detriment of drivers, who are ‘denied’ the right to operate their own license.

The drivers license, as you well know, is a license to drive a taxi, not operate one. I contend you are deliberately misleading whoever this document is intended for by not clearly stating the difference between the licenses.



You are confusing me with this statement.

Do you mean the wages of a driver is dependant upon the number of licenses issued? Because thats what it reads as.



I know this Gary, thanks for telling me.

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No Wayne you are talking Pi** again. It’s a question of access. Anyone can become a driver. No access denied in obtaining a taxi drivers licence as long as you pass the knowledge.

Access to the licence or plate to operate your own taxi/vehicle is denied.

Therefore control is in the hands of the people who run the Cartel. It is they who decide the level of access to both plates and shifts one being a limiting factor of the other.


Dont tell me you are still confused Wayne?



£40,000 remember

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Don't try take things out of context Wayne it is the act of a desperate man

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How about? He who controls the access to a product or service which is restricted or denied controls the price.

Make sense now Wayne?

£40,000 Wayne

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No Gary I'm not taking the p*ss honest

License plates are limited because the local authority decide thats the case, not the taxi trade.

Your refering to a cartel again, are these the same people who dislike each other? because from an outside perspective the HC companies in Edinburgh dont like each other, and they like PH even less.

If they were a proper cartel wouldnt they fix prices? Unless of course you have proof of that too.

Incidentally, I aint seen the proof of the cartel yet, only wild speculation.

How much did you sell your plate for Gary, I've never sold one and it cost me £25, (although thats refundable).

If I bought a plate from you Gary, would you refund my £40K in the event of deregulation?

Do you not think its a little bit rough on people who may have committed there homes around a plate? I mean, you sold yours.

Do you think plates should be non transferable? Because I do, and when someone finishes with a plate, do you think they should hand it back to the people that own it (thats the people of the licensing area).

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Bingo I agree. As long as qualified taxi driver are allowed unfettered access then yes.

Don't want a black market now do we

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Where does the £40,000 come from show me the economic factors which dictate the value of a £700 public licence?


I answer your questions captain now you answer mine?

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Your refering to a cartel again, are these the same people who dislike each other? because from an outside perspective the HC companies in Edinburgh dont like each other, and they like PH even less.

No Gary I dont believe in Drugs and I think anyone who deals in them should be hung until there half dead, disemboweled and then have there genitals removed with a blunt instrument and shown to them whilst there still alive.

A cartel is an agreement to fix prices, you suggest the cartel fix prices, for the cartel to work there needs to be agreement. From all I've seen the companies dont like each other too much, so they cant fix prices, your claims the council are involved is without proof and speculative at best.



That isnt proof. Its the amount of money someone is willing to pay, nothing more nothing less.

Private hire have increased all over the country, I was shocked to hear you still outnumbered them in Edinburgh. The question why Edinburgh seems different to the rest of the country seems more of a question. And one perhaps worthy of further debate.

Less work doesnt mean a reduction in plate values either, you only need look at Liverpool in relation to plate values before and after the survey and before and after the OFT.





ITS? I presume whoever it is, is acting as a broker? Charging a fee and collecting a commission?



I've already given my opinion but I'll repeat it in clear terms, the £40K comes from a mug prepared to keep the purpetual circle of self deceit going.



Because you sold it, did you sell it with a warning saying if these people deregulate this thing will be worth zero? (not a good selling point I admit)

I was obviously mistaken, you see I thought you were preaching here, morals and high ground and all of that. But that doesnt matter because you got your plate, cleaned up and now want another. Regardless of whats happened to you personally and the circumstances, thats what people will point too.





Not very christian really Gary, a bit like you pay your money and if deregulation occurs you lose your house ?



And if there was a black market anyone dealing in it should be jailed, I dont have a problem with that.

Every qualified taxi driver being a taxi owner? Depends upon the criterion.

Captain Cab

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I did just above.

When you sold your plate was it to the highest bidder?
You must have had a price in mind, how did you come to that price?

There isnt economic factors involved, its a case of the next mug.

Captain cab

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