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Terence Flanagan Branch Sec:

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Professional Drivers Branch Column


IMPORTING DRIVERS COMING TO YOUR TOWN SOON ??
Lets make it quite clear from the start !! We do not object on any racial basis people who have a legal right to work in this country doing so. What we do object to is their being exploited, and used to attack the status quo of the industry. As we understand it these people are recruited in Prague, given some basic training in English, our customs, and some basic knowledge of London’s geography. Upon arriving in the country they are fixed up with lodgings ( at a fair rent of course ? ) assisted to obtain a temporary permit, and then introduced to a company. Now quite clearly with the language difficulties and the complexity of our city, they face great difficulties, so clearly our role is to contact these drivers, examine their situation, sign them into the union, and ensure that their presence in no way undermines the industry. Many of us, myself included come from families who were originally immigrants themselves, in my case from the Emerald Isle at that time being raped and pillaged by the British with such lovely outfits as the Black and Tans ! As might be noted the Irish had and still have a great influence on the trade union movement, indeed our new General Sec. Paul Kenny is of Irish descent. Lets hope that these people have a pro-rata influence upon our movement. We suspect that these drivers will have been saddled with considerable debts which they will have to repay at exorbitant interest rates, we have been reliably informed that the plan is, alternate 12 hr. shifts in the vehicle and the bed, and if similar to imported plumbers, up to 16 bodies in a house, up to 4 in room all sharing 1 kitchen, bathroom, and WC. Our tactics will of course bring these people into the real world, but we must wonder about the morality of the proprietors who intend to exploit these people !!
SPEED CAMERAS
Poxy, [edited by admin], Money Raising Scams, impact on safety virtually NIL, the 3 points on your licence very dangerous, they soon mount up don’t they ? And before you know it your looking at a ban. Well up in Newcastle where I was last week ( May) they have a scheme, instead of paying a £60 fine and getting 3 points, you pay £65 and a do a days safety awareness course, and get NO points. This scheme looks good to me, obviously it could be abused but we think it is a way forward for us in London, so we will be raising it with the Mayors Office soon, send us your comments. Before you go and think what can I be taught ? You will be surprised how many BAD diving habits you have accumulated over the years and do not realise you have, until pointed out to you, which probably contributed to you getting the speeding fine in the 1st place.
BE AWARE that the new generation of cameras are now digital and direct linked to DVLA. So as soon as you get flashed the process has started, all by phone line etc. and you will receive a ticket in VERY short order !!
Blackpool
Oh I seem to have upset some people ! So I as us Southern persons do, said what most others have said to me on the hush, hush, what can I not say now ? But to be fair millions of people visit Blackpoll annually and return again and again, so there must be something that I missed as they cant all be wrong. The taxi service was excellent ( will I ever get another cab if recognised ) the people friendly, it was however slightly cold and poring with rain, but this will all be solved when one can get out of the weather in the projected Casino, would I recommend it as a conference venue ? NO ! this town is in serious need of refurbishment, but if it’s your bag, more power to your elbow !!
WATER SHORTAGE
At the time of writing this in 90 deg of heat, and facing a water ban which could mean we cannot clean our vehicles, because the German company that owns Thames Water, despite earning £300 M profit last year and the directors paying themselves £615,000 productivity bonus for falling short on all requirements to cut water leaks by 30%+ are now looking to impose severe restrictions. Over the past couple of years they have shut at least 7 reservoirs which they have asset stripped to property developers. Who do we blame for this ? Well the good old Tory Vermin of course, selling off the family silver as said by Mc Millan former prime minister. So if you come South be prepared to hold you noses as having a wash might become a privileged event !!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:56 pm 
the above piece from terry is from july's Press Cuttings Monthly which is out at the end of this month


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Whatever your view on Peters article, he certainly puts his views across in a far more reasoned and articulate way than Flannagan does.

I've never heard of anyone in over two decades showing an interest in joining a union like the GMB who represents anything from bus drivers to shipyard workers?

My interests are much better served within a London based driver representative body.


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tm wrote:
the above piece from terry is from july's Press Cuttings Monthly which is out at the end of this month


TM, can you tell us what Peter Roses reply was to Flanagans temper tantrum?


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tm wrote:
Terence Flanagan Branch Sec:

Oh I seem to have upset some people !


Theres a quote now.

His mobile number seems to have dissapeared?

Strange!


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Peter Rose wrote:
Also what would some of the women’s safety groups think of this practice?


We did an article about the temporary permits at the time and emailed the Susie Lamplugh Trust to ask what they thought about the relaxation but never got a reply.

I think the argument at the time was that with Xmas coming up then it would be more dangerous for women not to be able to get minicabs than have more vehicles around but with some dangerous drivers slipping through the net, and clearly this argument held sway with the powers that be.

(In case anyone doesn't know, the Susy Lamplugh Trust (which campaigns on women's safety issues) was a very vocal and influential advocate for minicab licensing - indeed I think Diana Lamplugh claimed to have been abused and spat on because of her support for this issue.)

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you can find it on www.Press Cuttings Monthly.com


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Peters been holidaying in florida and his next piece will be in Augusts Press Cuttings Monthly


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This is the article we ran in 2003, by the way:

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/crb.htm

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tm wrote:


thats terry's phone number


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Whatever your view on Peters article, he certainly puts his views across in a far more reasoned and articulate way than Flannagan does.



I thought Mr Rose's article was quite moderate, and certainly more so than your comments on here GBC :?

Just imagine if you and Mr Flanagan crossed swords on here - it would make you and peebee seem like a love-in :lol:

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
I've never heard of anyone in over two decades showing an interest in joining a union like the GMB who represents anything from bus drivers to shipyard workers?

As opposed to the T&G's bus drivers to TX makers. :roll: :roll:

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tm wrote:
The average age of drivers is above 50 years, and many of you hire out your cabs and badges to illegal immigrants to cop a few bob,


Anyone know anything about badge hiring? I've no doubt it goes on, because of course plate hiring is well know in the trade (in restricted areas) so why not badges?

Of course, it would be more difficult to do than hire a plate, but if a badge is difficult to obtain (like the plate) then to that extent its misuse would have a monetary value, so it wouldn't be surprising if some tried it. And the more difficult to get the badge the more money it would involve, and the greater the temptation to try to make some money out of it.

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Terry Flanagan:

IMPORTING DRIVERS COMING TO YOUR TOWN SOON ??
Lets make it quite clear from the start !! We do not object on any racial basis people who have a legal right to work in this country doing so. What we do object to is their being exploited, and used to attack the status quo of the industry. As we understand it these people are recruited in Prague, given some basic training in English, our customs, and some basic knowledge of London’s geography. Upon arriving in the country they are fixed up with lodgings ( at a fair rent of course ? ) assisted to obtain a temporary permit, and then introduced to a company. Now quite clearly with the language difficulties and the complexity of our city, they face great difficulties, so clearly our role is to contact these drivers, examine their situation, sign them into the union, and ensure that their presence in no way undermines the industry. Lets hope that these people have a pro-rata influence upon our movement. We suspect that these drivers will have been saddled with considerable debts which they will have to repay at exorbitant interest rates, we have been reliably informed that the plan is, alternate 12 hr. shifts in the vehicle and the bed, and if similar to imported plumbers, up to 16 bodies in a house, up to 4 in room all sharing 1 kitchen, bathroom, and WC. Our tactics will of course bring these people into the real world, but we must wonder about the morality of the proprietors who intend to exploit these people !!



So you acknowledge the imports will be used and abused.


Peter ROSE:

the mini-cab trade in the Capital has always been low paid? It is the view of many in the taxi trade that Private hire in London can only survive as a profit making enterprise in London by keeping its drivers earnings low, in order to maximise the profits of the operators. If the operators had to pay its drivers comparable rate as the Capitals radio taxi drivers can expect to earn for doing the same journey, (In London taxi drivers on radio get to keep all of the metered fare.) they would in the opinions of some, soon go out of business.


And Peter Rose makes roughly the same point?

Why the scathing attack on London's taxi trade? One can only assume Mr Flannagan posseses a rather large chunk of wood on one of his shoulders. :D


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TDO wrote:
I thought Mr Rose's article was quite moderate, and certainly more so than your comments on here GBC :?

Just imagine if you and Mr Flanagan crossed swords on here - it would make you and peebee seem like a love-in :lol:


Moderate is my middle name. :wink:

Mr Flannagan would be most welcome to join in here anytime he wants.
I suspect the phrase [edited by admin] might appear a lot though, hardly endearing or professional for someone who is the voice of so many people.
You would have thought his brain would be placed in gear before he started to type. :?

Perhaps you could invite him? I note the magazine has a lot of stuff from this site on there?


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