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The story referred to £500 pounds takings, and I take that to mean gross fares before any rental or running costs.

Thus the figure didn't seem particularly high to me, bu of course I suspect many people would construe 'takings' in another way.


I specifically asked Mary Murtagh if the figure was net of any rental charges and she said, it was net of any "settle", which is the Merseyside term for rent. She also said it was for 40 hours worked. I put it to her that to earn 500 pounds net, a driver renting a vehicle would have to gross in the region of 750 to 800 pounds depending on the settle agreement? She said she was given those figures by a reliable source from the council and that source was Derek Hughes.

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I've spoken to Mr Hughes at Liverpool licensing and I found him to be extremely polite and co-operative. He explained that the reference to the 70.00 per hour was from information given to him by two drivers who had informed him that such a figure was obtainable between the hours of two and three on a Sunday morning.

In respect of the figure of 500 pounds, this also came from local Taxi drivers but at no time did he state it was earned in a 40 hour period. He also acknowledged that to earn that type of money as a net income, a driver would have to work in excess of 40 hours.

In regard to standing and Plying for hire Mr Hughes confirmed that his comments only related to vehicles that were plying for hire at a taxi rank or standing in the street plying for hire with their light on. A vehicle in motion with its light on failing to respond to a flagger, or standing at traffic lights etc did not fit his definition of being obligated to take a fare.

I suppose at the end of the day journalists who do not know the workings and laws of the Taxi trade will always have a tendency to take statements at face value, simply because they lack the specialised knowledge to question the information being given?

At least anyone reading TDO will now know the background to the information so I think I shall leave it at that.

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Having spoken to the journalist who penned this article I can confirm that the article was written in good faith and the information in respect of £500 earning per week, the £70 per hour in the early hours of Sunday morning and the obligation to accept any fare, however short or long, came from Mr Dereck Hughes of Liverpool licensing.

I hope you didn't say you was a legal journo from Press Cuttings Monthly. :roll:

That said I wonder how many people from all those wonderful taxi trade mags will ring the article's writer themselves.

Or maybe they are too busy licking the bums of the likes of LTI and TTC. [-X

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I hope you didn't say you was a legal journo from Press Cuttings Monthly. :roll:


What would be the point in saying I'm a legal journalist? In fact what would be the point of anyone saying they are a legal journalist? And for that matter what exactly is a legal journalist? lol

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That said I wonder how many people from all those wonderful taxi trade mags will ring the article's writer themselves.


Well TDO leads the field in Taxi journalism therefore it is no surprise that we got to the bottom of this story as quickly as we did? TDO's record speaks for itself and I'm not really interested what inferior publications do.

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Why don't Liverpool council install price signs at taxi ranks in the city centre.This would go some way to stop tourists being overcharged,like the ones they have in Spain.
Does any other council in the UK use them???? :D i think it would be a good idea 8)


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We have them in Brighton, and most of the cabs have 'fares fair' sticker in their cabs.

Works out the meter rate about £2.00 a mile, and the posters are on the main ranks.

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Delta do not display destinations on any city centre bookings so our drivers are not able to cherry pick... a job's a job. Also, our fares are based purely on mileage, none of this 4 miles past the state line malarkey. If customers want to query their fare they just ring the Control Centre supervisor. Drivers caught overcharging are often forced to refund the WHOLE fare, not just the amount overcharged.

The result... in the past 12 months we have increased our city centre pick-ups by over a thousand passengers a day.

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Well TDO leads the field in Taxi journalism therefore it is no surprise that we got to the bottom of this story as quickly as we did? TDO's record speaks for itself and I'm not really interested what inferior publications do.

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JD[/quote] After reading Taxi talk for a week, pages and pages of pap. Nothing-controversial. Nothing where there has been even a little bit of investigation .No new stories, just the rehashed rubbish. All nice and safe stuff.
Perhaps they should ask you to contribute to their rag. Some one might even read it instead of using it to wipe their hands on.
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Some one might even read it instead of using it to wipe their hands on.
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You sure it's just their hands? :roll: :roll: :roll:

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The result... in the past 12 months we have increased our city centre pick-ups by over a thousand passengers a day.
Mr Delta just how many liverpool city centre pickups do you do . You say they have increased by a thousand a day . :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: 5,000 10,000 Regards streetcars.


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The result... in the past 12 months we have increased our city centre pick-ups by over a thousand passengers a day.
Mr Delta just how many liverpool city centre pickups do you do . You say they have increased by a thousand a day . :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: 5,000 10,000 Regards streetcars.


I didn't say we have increased by a thousand pickups a day, I said we have increased by over a thousand passengers a day. The average number of passengers carried by Delta vehicles is between 2.5 and 2.75. Having increased our city centre work from about 1100 bookings a day to about 1500 bookings a day, the 400 additional car loads equates to between 1,000 and 1,100 passengers, hence the quote. This increase would not have been possible had it not been for the increasing number of X-city hack drivers joining the Delta fleet... I guess now they no longer have to bimble back into town empty. Any signs of the cabs sorting out a Merseyside plate yet or are we still onto a winner???... 8-[

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This increase would not have been possible had it not been for the increasing number of X-city hack drivers joining the Delta fleet...

Oh don't do that, cos we will know have the belly-aching plate barons moaning that they haven't got enough drivers to feed them. :wink:

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This increase would not have been possible had it not been for the increasing number of X-city hack drivers joining the Delta fleet...

Oh don't do that, cos we will know have the belly-aching plate barons moaning that they haven't got enough drivers to feed them. :wink:
The Barons are feeling it, big time, every other cab has a sign in the back window . "night Collar " Day Collar " Long Collar " Any bloody Collar "Things are so bad ,some barons are going to have to drive the cab, them selves. Can you believe that ! Dont tell Liverpool council, its a secret. They wonder why Cherry picking goes on . Streetcars


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I didn't say we have increased by a thousand pickups a day, I said we have increased by over a thousand passengers a day. The average number of passengers carried by Delta vehicles is between 2.5 and 2.75. Having increased our city centre work from about 1100 bookings a day to about 1500 bookings a day, the 400 additional car loads equates to between 1,000 and 1,100 passengers, hence the quote. This increase would not have been possible had it not been for the increasing number of X-city hack drivers joining the Delta fleet... I guess now they no longer have to bimble back into town empty. Any signs of the cabs sorting out a Merseyside plate yet or are we still onto a winner???... 8-[


1500 bookings a day , from Liverpool city centre. No wonder the ranks are not moveing. So if you are a Liverpool hack driver and you like driving ,not just siting on a rank. Paying 300 pounds for the privilege. Join Delta ! Who knows Liverpool rents might tumble, Plates 58000, might , fall . You could return in a year and buy your own Liverpool cab.
Merseyside plate ! you have more chance, of getting a love letter off mrs Con. Regards STREETCARS.


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This increase would not have been possible had it not been for the increasing number of X-city hack drivers joining the Delta fleet...

Oh don't do that, cos we will know have the belly-aching plate barons moaning that they haven't got enough drivers to feed them. :wink:
The Barons are feeling it, big time, every other cab has a sign in the back window . "night Collar " Day Collar " Long Collar " Any bloody Collar "Things are so bad ,some barons are going to have to drive the cab, them selves. Can you believe that ! Dont tell Liverpool council, its a secret. They wonder why Cherry picking goes on . Streetcars

I have been asking around about the cab's that are looking for relief drivers , it seems a lot of permanent drivers have booked holidays at this time, normally a week or two would not matter, but it seems the tendency is for four to six weeks , and then another four to six weeks in the summer, my ,my, the job must be bad............ Oh by the way there is a strong rumour that Terry is looking for a branch secretary for the Sefton private hire drivers, would you be interested......

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