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Believe me Graham the Sefton private hire have already muted the idea, and have not as far as I know decided it was not workable.


Well if they want to stuff Sefton council they will need the help of Mr Delta because he is the main provider of work and without him they would be somewhat up the swanee without a padle.

What do you think of Carlisle council removing the illegal Taxi rank condition of license next week? Don't you think it strange Mr Casey didn't mention it in his Taxi Talk column? lol

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I will give you an honest answer, if Delta went someone would replace them, but considering their spending 3.5 million on a property specially designed for the next generation of private hire I don't think they will be going anywhere,

As for Carlisle they had a system that worked, if it changes, some individuals that had just spent £30,000 on new TX 4 will find it extremely hard, drivers will probably get rid of wheelchair accessible vehicles and replace them with saloons, but a great deal more vehicles will probably end up having to put radios in which will make the captains radio company a lot more money, it might even mean Carlisle council insisting that all vehicles be wheelchair accessible, whichever way it turns out I think you will be responsible for a great many drivers either losing money or having to spend more than they do now.

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I will give you an honest answer, if Delta went someone would replace them, but considering their spending 3.5 million on a property specially designed for the next generation of private hire I don't think they will be going anywhere,

As for Carlisle they had a system that worked, if it changes, some individuals that had just spent £30,000 on new TX 4 will find it extremely hard, drivers will probably get rid of wheelchair accessible vehicles and replace them with saloons, but a great deal more vehicles will probably end up having to put radios in which will make the captains radio company a lot more money, it might even mean Carlisle council insisting that all vehicles be wheelchair accessible, whichever way it turns out I think you will be responsible for a great many drivers either losing money or having to spend more than they do now.


Carlisle is in the process of introducing a policy of wav only vehicles on new licenses. This was initiated by the local TOA and I understand will be accepted by the council if it hasn't already. The new condition is obviously a step in the way of quality vehicle control in order to try and slow down license uptake.

In respect of the "illegal" condition itself Carlisle only have themselves to blame, it was inevitable that someone somewhere would eventually have challenged it, alternately it may well have been removed by councillors? In fact councillors are removing it and the reason it is being removed, is because they know the condition is illegal. Now that might be bad news for those who have benefited from exclusivity of its use but it is definitely good news for the majority of the Taxi trade who incidentally have been excluded from this rank for 13 years.

I don't mind being known as the man who got 60% of Carlisle Taxi drivers the right to ply for hire on the City's busiest Taxi rank.

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In respect of the "illegal" condition itself Carlisle only have themselves to blame, it was inevitable that someone somewhere would eventually have challenged it... :cry: .But they did not it was you...with out being asked. :cry: .

I think in Carlisle you will be known as the man who cost the normal everyday Taxi Driver a great deal of money.

After all the drivers in Carlisle had known for years that they could have contested the condition but chose not to, that was their decision, but you know better :oops:

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I But they did not it was you...with out being asked..

I think in Carlisle you will be known as the man who cost the normal everyday Taxi Driver a great deal of money.


If you were excluded you might sing a different tune.

I just present the facts and if councils are doing wrong then I shall expose them as doing wrong, no matter who they, are or what they are.

I'm not impressed by people who put themselves in positions of what they think is authority and then try and manipulate the law to suit their own purpose. If you can't handle that then you shouldn't be a trade rep because regardless of what you or anyone else says the Taxi trade no matter where it might be is not just for the vested interest of a minority group.

That my friend is where you and I part company because while I see the taxi trade as one you see it from a vested interest perspective and your comments on Carlisle have proven that beyond all reasonable doubt.

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I But they did not it was you...with out being asked..

I think in Carlisle you will be known as the man who cost the normal everyday Taxi Driver a great deal of money.


If you were excluded you might sing a different tune.

I just present the facts and if councils are doing wrong then I shall expose them as doing wrong, no matter who they, are or what they are.

I'm not impressed by people who put themselves in positions of what they think is authority and then try and manipulate the law to suit their own purpose. If you can't handle that then you shouldn't be a trade rep because regardless of what you or anyone else says the Taxi trade no matter where it might be is not just for the vested interest of a minority group.

That my friend is where you and I part company because while I see the taxi trade as one you see it from a vested interest perspective and your comments on Carlisle have proven that beyond all reasonable doubt.

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As you have no conscience, your actions mean nothing to you, you will have cost the everyday cab driver in Carlisle a great deal of money, I don't have to live with that, but then I would not have done it.

Graham, you are living in a dream world, the vast majority of the Hackney Trade are single owner drivers, it's them that you are hurting and destroying.

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I But they did not it was you...with out being asked..

I think in Carlisle you will be known as the man who cost the normal everyday Taxi Driver a great deal of money.


If you were excluded you might sing a different tune.

I just present the facts and if councils are doing wrong then I shall expose them as doing wrong, no matter who they, are or what they are.

I'm not impressed by people who put themselves in positions of what they think is authority and then try and manipulate the law to suit their own purpose. If you can't handle that then you shouldn't be a trade rep because regardless of what you or anyone else says the Taxi trade no matter where it might be is not just for the vested interest of a minority group.

That my friend is where you and I part company because while I see the taxi trade as one you see it from a vested interest perspective and your comments on Carlisle have proven that beyond all reasonable doubt.

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As you have no conscience, your actions mean nothing to you, you will have cost the everyday cab driver in Carlisle a great deal of money, I don't have to live with that, but then I would not have done it.


Don't you think the illegal actions of Carlisle council for the last 13 years has caused the MAJORITY of cab drivers money? How do you get off by excluding over 60% of the hackney carriage from a Taxi rank? I've never heard such nonsense. Just because Wayne Casey is a friend of yours it doesn't mean you have to close your eyes to reality? What if Brighton council came out with a condition that only allowed wavs to work the busiest rank in town? How do you think the majority of saloon car owners would feel? What if every council in the country applied the same illegal condition as Carlisle would that be alright by you?

I think everyone can see where you're coming from Trevor and its definitely not from the world of reality.

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Graham, the reality of it and the truth of it is that Carlisle has no limit on licences, any body that wanted to work that Rank simply had to buy a wheelchair accessible vehicle, that's all they had to do, and they could buy one for less than a £1,000, but they chose not to because they wanted to drive a saloon vehicle, it as simple as that.

You Keep Going On about 60 per cent of the trade, well 100 per cent of the trade knew that they could take the council to court but chose not to but it did not matter what they wanted did it. as long as you got your way... it's as simple as that.... ps if I was you if you're ever in Carlisle I would not mention to any cab driver that you were responsible, from the ones I have spoken to they will hang you from the nearest lamp-post.

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ps if I was you if you're ever in Carlisle I would not mention to any cab driver that you were responsible, from the ones I have spoken to they will hang you from the nearest lamp-post.


lol so the ones who would like to hang me from the nearest lamppost obviously wanted the exclusion to continue. Well that doesn't surprise me in the least and you think because the illegal condition wasn't challenged in 13 years the excluded majority were happy with it? If that be the case then they have the option of retaining the status quo and allowing only wavs to work it.

You never answered the questions I posed about Brighton or the rest of country only allowing wavs to work the busiest taxi rank in town. Do you have a problem with addressing those questions? I will take an educated guess and state you would be dead against any council implementing such an illegal condition but in your opinion in respect of Carlisle its alright?

You are predictable to a T Trevor and I hope all these guys on here and elsewhere are taking note of your joined up thinking, which is one rule for Carlisle and another for the rest of the country?

Summed up to a T.

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Graham, who asked the question about Carlisle ... You... I gave you an honest answer, you did not like it, so you decided to change this subject and choose Brighton, I answered you about Carlisle, you like to play God, one day your actions will come back to haunt you ..

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Graham, who asked the question about Carlisle ... You... I gave you an honest answer, you did not like it, so you decided to change this subject and choose Brighton, I answered you about Carlisle, you like to play God, one day your actions will come back to haunt you ..


I never changed this subject around, I merely questioned your reasoning of this illegal condition in Carlisle and how you would react if Brighton council came out with a condition that only allowed wavs to work the busiest rank in town? How do you think the majority of saloon car owners would feel? What if every council in the country applied the same illegal condition as Carlisle would that be alright by you?

Anyone in their right mind can see that the question I asked you is related to the illegal condition in Carlisle. Just because you won't answer the question don't come out with the tripe that I'm changing the subject. It is my opinion, that should Brighton council say they are going to apply a condition excluding all saloon cars from the busiest Taxi rank in town, that you would be the first to cry foul and Andy Peters would probably be close behind you, followed by Wayne Casey. lol

Therefore my assumption is that you have double standards, one for Carlisle and one for Brighton and the rest of the United Kingom.

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Sussex, one little mention of Terry and you make such a fuss , it does not strike me as the actions of a innocent man. :lol:

Ok then I'm guilty. Not quite sure of what, but if it makes you feel better, then guilty it is. [-(

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You Keep Going On about 60 per cent of the trade, well 100 per cent of the trade knew that they could take the council to court but chose not to but it did not matter what they wanted did it. as long as you got your way... it's as simple as that.... ps if I was you if you're ever in Carlisle I would not mention to any cab driver that you were responsible, from the ones I have spoken to they will hang you from the nearest lamp-post.
Your saying 100 per cent of the trade, new about this illegal condition in Carlisle . Excluded from the best rank, in carlisle! .Come on , in thirteen years, some bright spark would have challenged it .
I think its more a case of ignorance . The people who new it was illegal, for what ever reason, chose to say nothing .
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The site, is built up around the incoherant ramblings of a fool. why should we alter the theme now . :lol:


Trevor, do you reccomend that Mr Delta advises all sefton private hire owners to license their vehicles in unrestricted authorities that use saloon cars as hackneys and come and work for Delta under the same conditions as they did previously when licensed by Sefton? lol

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Why is Mr T calling you Graham? :?: .
Where is the nearest unrestricted authority, to Sefton , that use cars as hackneys? :?:Just giving Mr Delta some help.
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Why is Mr T calling you Graham? :?: .
Where is the nearest unrestricted authority, to Sefton , that use cars as hackneys? :?:Just giving Mr Delta some help.
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He calls me Graham because after three years of calling me Spencer he finally realised his monumental mistake. lol. I suspect it will take him and some others equally as long to look just as foolish at calling me Graham. lol

I presume that when Mr Wayne Casey or his brother scooted down to Bradford at the request of the infamous Mr Tony Mite of Taxi Today fame that Mr casey got the plate number of the vehicle that went down there. Probably he or Mr Mite have made some enquiries and come up with the name Graham? lol Of course Mr Casey can't say he or his brother were down in Bradford because it would make him out to be a liar, lol. And neither can Mr Tony Mite because it would also make him out to be a liar and expose their conspiracy of trying to set me up. lol. However considering Mr Mite was the only person who new I was sending a representative down there at that particular time, I think we can all assume how their little plan was supposed to hatch out.

So that is why Mr T calls me Graham lol but he won't tell you the reason because like I said, no one went down to Bradford.

In respect of those unrestricted authorities who license saloon cars as hackney carriages in the locality of Sefton, I will post some details but Mr Delta would first have to agree to take on these vehicles being licensed in other areas, otherwise the activity would be pointless.

I suggest Mr Delta leads the way by getting his own vehicles licensed as hackneys outside of Sefton and then everyone else will be put at ease. It should be interesting to see this new found freedom in action because it would certainly make Sefton Council sit up and take notice and it would also put the power of negotiation firmly in the hands of the private hire sector.



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