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PHTM article on Carlisle's new wav policy. The article infers that the Carlisle Taxi association may ask for the changes to be reversed but that seems unlikely when you consider it was they who proposed the new policy.
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Carlisle taxi drivers predict that changes designed to increase the proportion of wheelchair friendly taxis will have the opposite effect.

The city council has decided that from August no new licences will be issued for white saloon-car vehicles. Drivers of existing white taxis will be able to replace them but anyone entering the taxi trade must buy a larger vehicle, such as a London-style black cab which can carry a wheelchair.

Owner-driver George Corry described the change a joke. He told the West Cumbria News and Star: “There will be a mad rush for white car licences before the August deadline. “Instead of having fewer saloon car taxis there will be more of them.” Some drivers have predicted that white taxi licences issued for £25 will change hands or up to £10,000 on the black market once the new regulations come into force.

The council has also decided to introduce an age limit for black cabs. They must be under three years old when first licensed and retired at 10 years unless in exceptional condition. Sixteen taxis older than that are likely to have to come off the road immediately.

Ray Thompson, a self employed black cab driver from Harraby, is among those affected. He bought a 10-yearold London-style black cab for £1,500 in December. He said: “This is basically going to put me out of work. “I can’t afford to buy a newer cab and if I change to a saloon car I’ll lose social services contracts that require my cab to take a wheelchair.”

Another self-employed driver, Stephen Matthews, who has a seven-year-old black cab, said he was initially against age restrictions on vehicles. He added: “A taxi has to pass the equivalent of three MOT tests a year. If it does that it should be good enough whatever its age.”

But David Morton, chairman of the council’s regulatory panel, defended the new regulations. He said: “There has been no indication that there will be a rush for saloon licence plates. “Any such applications will be monitored over the next 12 months and if there is any change to the pattern then it will be reported to panel for consideration.” Mr Morton said the changes had been introduced in the best interests of all concerned including the public. And he said the new rules anticipated future legislation that will mean all taxis must be able to carry a wheelchair.

Carlisle Taxi Association may ask the council to reverse the changes. Carlisle currently has 203 taxis, of which 94 are equipped to carry wheelchairs.

Mr GMB North have you taken note?

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IDFIMH

Mr GMB North has a lot to learn but if he sticks around this site will surely educate him.

Regards

JD

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What a fine advert for the trade?

Is it just the North West coast that sheds go to retire?

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IDFIMH

I think most agree that Mr Gateshead Angel is not the sharpest knife in the draw and that he has a propensity to mislead and present untrue statements. Such as the time he reduced Gateshead's population by half in order to make the statistic fit his point of view. He then recently presented the true population statistics of gateshead which were double the statistics he gave several years ago. Its a good job we have all this information to hand because it exposes the failings of these people.

In respect of Carlisle and Mr Gateshead Angels remarks in reference to me being the possible architect of Saloon car reduction, I think I should remind him that the Carlisle Taxi association are the true architects of saloon car reduction as can be seen by their involvement in asking for and achieving a wav only policy for future vehicle licenses.
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To the Chairman and Members of the Carlisle council Regulatory Panel 24th January 2007

INTRODUCTION

Carlisle Taxi Association (CTA) represents approximately half of the Hackney Carriage owners (Taxis) licensed with this Authority. Correspondence has been received from the Association who are asking the Council to review their policy with regard to the licensing of Hackney Carriages. These details were last discussed at the quarterly meeting between the CTA and the Licensing Manager on 12th December 2006. Members are being asked to consider four areas relevant to the licensing of Hackney Carriages (Appendix 1A-1C).

1.1 REQUEST FOR A DEMAND SURVEY

The Association would like the Council to suspend the issuing of any further Hackney Carriage licences as they believe the market has reached saturation point. With the current number of taxis operating in Carlisle (207), they are sure that there is now “no unmet demand”.

In order for the Council to suspend the issue of any further licences a ‘Demand Survey’ would be required now and every three years thereafter. This survey would cost in the region of £12,000 and would have to be financed by the taxi owners.

This could be achieved by increasing Hackney Carriage licences by approximately £20 per year. Should the survey indicate that there was “no unmet demand” the Council could stop issuing any further licences but would not be bound by the findings of the survey.

1.2 RESTRICTING NEW APPLICANTS TO WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES

Should the members be minded not to commission a “demand survey” or not to suspend the issue of any further licences, the Association would like the Council to only issue any additional licences to Wheelchair Accessible vehicles which meet the Councils specification.

As the Association considers that there are currently an adequate number of taxis to meet public demand, they believe that another way of restricting entry into the trade would be to require a “major commitment” from new applicants. As relatively new wheelchair accessible taxis cost in the region of £20,000, only people with a real interest in the trade would pursue this course of employment.
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Passing the buck again JD.

Your insistance that the situation at the station rank, intended to increase number of WAV's whilst retaining choice for drivers, was illegal and the fact that you phoned Carlisle City Council to point out that fact, had nothing to do with the council taking the decision they did.

The condition was unchallenged and only rarely questioned until you stuck your nose in claiming to be the saviour of the saloon trade in Carlisle, your witch-hunt against Wayne Casey caused this action by the council and the implications of taking advise from you are to be clearly seen by this decision.

You can try and discredit me, or claim that I'm "not the sharpest knife in the draw" but using the example you did does more to question you than me. To any sane person anyway.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

Mr ex GMB SUSSEX ........................ ARE SALOONS NOW ALLOWED TO USE THE RANK AT THE STATION?

Would the council have reviewed their policy on vehicles if a nobody from Manchester (apparently) hadn't started making accusations about their policies?

and lastly, the big question ................. HOW MUCH ARE THE SALOON PLATES NOW WORTH IN CARLISLE NOW JD HAS WORKED HIS MAGIC ?

Still having a plate value may be some consolation for them not having access to the station, if they still don't have access that is.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

By law, Yes. But then again, Carlisle council think they are the law? lol



The above statement just shows what a dope the GMB have recruited.

Carlisle Council reviewed their vehicle policy at the request of the Carlisle Taxi association. Perhaps you should be called Mr selective thinking instead of Mr Gateshead Angel?

1.2 RESTRICTING NEW APPLICANTS TO WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE VEHICLES

Should the members be minded not to commission a “demand survey” or not to suspend the issue of any further licences, the Association would like the Council to only issue any additional licences to Wheelchair Accessible vehicles which meet the Councils specification.

As the Association considers that there are currently an adequate number of taxis to meet public demand, they believe that another way of restricting entry into the trade would be to require a “major commitment” from new applicants. As relatively new wheelchair accessible taxis cost in the region of £20,000, only people with a real interest in the trade would pursue this course of employment.

Is it only those that don't drink from the Gateshead fountain of knowledge, that can truly understand the meaning of this request from the Carlisle Taxi association? lol I've heard of self-denial but your are the most acomplished proponent of the art that I've ever come across.



Well lets see, before the Carlisle Taxi association decided to ask the council to license no more saloons it was a case of them having no value but since the Carlisle Taxi association convinced Carlisle council to stop licensing saloons then they will after August, have a value. However I'm afraid that although you might wish to blame all of Carlisle's ills on JD, the none licensing of saloon cars and the likelihood of them having a scarcity value can be placed firmly at the door of the local Taxi association. Even though you may be too thick to realise it?

Regards

JD

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What does that mean in English ................... as it seems the situation at the station is the same as it was before your started your witch-hunt against Carlisle drivers generally and Wayne CAsey specifically.



So lets just get this clear ................. at no point did you phone Carlisle City and question their policy regarding the station rank as the legal editor of Taxi Today Magazine.

I would suggest that it is fact you that has the selective memory, and I would further suggest that any request from the Carlisle TOA was an attempt to save the trade from your unrelenting request to destroy it.




And neither that decision or any request would have been made if it wasn't for the interference of JD who had publicly questioned a local condition, which didn't even effect him, which had been generally accepted by the local trade for 13 years.

You think you can spin this situation so that no-one can apportion any blame onto JD ................. well that's not how I and many others see it, but as we all know JD cannot be blamed for anything as he doesn't actually exist ............................ that is why anyone seeking advise should stay well clear of this man, as when he gives bad advise which costs people a large amount of money there is no recourse.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

But there again anyone who doesn't agree with you is a dope .............. aren't they JD.

Maybe some of us will be focusing on more important things than plate values and have as a goal something other than the decimation of a whole industry.

The GMB North will be directed by the members and if the members don't want me, or anyone else involved then we will not be there ................. stop trying to take away peoples right to choose who they know is best placed to represent them JUST because their opinion, or should I say the opinion they offer on forums, doesn't suit you argument or destructive objective.

B. Lucky

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TF pi$$ed on his chips.

I don't take delight in calling you an idiot but the word is quite apt in your case. I'll give you an extremely good example why?

In 2006, I'll repeat that just in case you don't understand what 2006 means? In "2006" The Carlisle Taxi association asked the council not to license any more saloon cars as hackneys and only license wavs. They also wanted a cap put on numbers and a more stringent age limit placed on vehicles at first license etc. I don't recall ever being one of those persons who wrote to Carlisle council asking for such conditions, do you?

In January 2007 a report went before the committee detailing all these proposals by the Carlisle Taxi association. Various letters accompanied the report from the local trade and its associations, backing up their position and stated aims.

My first comments on the illegal condition attached to the Carlisle Taxi rank, appeared on this forum on Feb 15 2007. Quite some time after the request of Carlisle Taxi association to cap numbers and if that should fail, to only license wheelchair accessible vehicles and to further implement a strict vehicle age policy.

So anyone with a brain can see that it wasn't my mention of an illegal Taxi rank that brought about the Carlisle policy of wav only, or even instigated a policy of wav only, it was down to the Carlisle Taxi association and them alone.

And that is the reason why you are seen as a complete nincompoop and dispenser of untruths.

Regards

JD

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http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1397&highlight=carlisle





Shall we call the above selective memory disfunction?



Ahh, you've answered that already.

Regards

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Oh dear you being wrong is getting to be a bit of a habit.

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IDFIMH

Well it would appear not.

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IDFIMH

As a person who rarely changes their opinion or retracts statements on the understanding that he believes in what he said, I draw the attention of the gentleman to his first statement within the thread http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... t=carlisle where he stated he could make head nor tail of the situation ...................... I suggest and make the proposal that his stance should have remained as it was in 2005 when HE first had a conversation with Wayne Casey regarding this matter.

This evidence, from this website is a clear indication that JD knew about this situation in 2005 .................... so I wonder why he did nothing about it then as he expected others to ...................... or was it because his relationship with Mr Casey had not been soured at that time and a mutual respect existed between them both.

JD you are accused of lying and witholding vital and signifigant information from the members who read your most recent posts on this issue and actually believe what you are saying, and of trying to discredit Mr Casey and the NTA even though it can be proved that you were in possession of the facts more than a year before you came out with the story AGAIN.

I will not ask you to plead at this time .................. unless it is for forgiveness.

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.