Taxi Driver Online

And your basis of mathematics is as silly as your ego.

I pity you, if you ever become wheelchair bound and end up in Carlisle, we have 6 months to change vehicles, bearing in mind the average age of the WAV driver, you could have a long wait at some of the ranks.

Still, there's always national legislation

CC

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Is that your lame excuse for councils know best?

I think you will find there are over a 100 Carlisle's in the UK but only one thought it was above the law. You must be pleased as punch knowing that your colleagues can now use the same taxi rank as yourself, especially with you being a major player in an organisation that supposedly represents the whole of the Taxi trade.

Welcome to the real world of licensing.

By the way, I notice you didn't have much success with your misguided interpretation of the case law you trumpeted as being the saviour of this illegal condition. How come?



I don't think anyone is really that concerned about the way Carlisle implements its licensing policy, as long as it does it legally. That's all this little caper was ever about, the illegality of councillors imposing unlawful conditions on Taxi drivers.

I'll tell you something for free, wherever councillors try to implement illegal conditions on taxi drivers i'll fight to get them removed, unlike you who did sweet FA because it suited you and your buddies to keep an illegal condition. That's the difference between someone like me who believes licensing conditions should be legal and not discriminate and someone like you who says they represent the Taxi trade yet is quite happy to sit by and do nothing while the majority of the local Taxi trade are being shafted by an illegal condition and just because it suits you and your buddies.

In my opinion you, your local TOA, the licensing committee, the legal department and the licensing department are all discredited and should resign en masse. The financial loss to those drivers who have been excluded from the busiest Taxi rank in town must be substantial.

What have you and your buddies got to say to all those drivers who have been illegally excluded from the busiest rank in Town for the last 13 years? Don't you lot feel the slightest twinge of remorse for trying to exclude your work colleagues, or don't you see them as work colleagues?

I hope you lot can sleep at night? lol

Regards

JD

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I am indeed, unique. Well done for spotting it.

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Former taxi driver

Calm down JD, you'll give yourself a coronary.

But take a step back in time to 1994, when you say this illegal condition was imposed.

Was it therefore the case that up to 1994 Saloon car taxi's could use this rank?

And that the council decided that only WAV's could use this rank?

And that no saloon car taxi owner's questioned this decision, and if so, why not?

Maybe because they all found the arrangement was a "sweetheart deal" in as much as it was better to drive a saloon and be excluded from a busy rank, than be able to use the premier rank but have to drive a WAV to use it?

Thanks to a driver in Carlisle with "balls" as you put it, (how long will he keep them now, though?) they can all use the rank, but will have to buy a WAV before long anyway.

If that is not a Phyrric victory, I don't know what is.

You just had to wade in making WAV's didn't you?

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YOU pity ME?

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Jimbo, It may have escaped your notice that The government has not yet finalised the disability discrimination aspect, with regards to taxis, so until they decide, there is no need to go out and buy a wav, just because some dick head in charge of a council says so..
There are a number of disability groups who have said we don't want them, and that there is only a small percentage of the population that actually need a wav

I bought my first wav in 1992, because I wanted to. From April 1994, I had to have a wav or lose my license. The "dickheads in charge" as you put it, said so, so everyone who wanted to continue in the trade had to, like it or not. Apart from the two who contested the COL in Court, and lost, who got one extra year in a saloon. There may be a number of groups who oppose them, but that did not stop mine, or many others from going 100% WAV. After all, at the end of the day, Local Councils know best, don't they?

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Jimbo I think I am correct in saying that the original date for implementation was some time in 1996, this did not come about, but it has caused a division in the trade by splitting us into wav's or ph
I think a lot of owners at the time decided that they did not want wav's and went ph to keep costs down.

If any LA wishes to change the Conditions of Licence in their area to WAV only there is nothing that can be done to overturn that decision. I know. Been there, done that.

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You have the right to protest Jimbo even go on strike, even a go slow at rush hour, why not bring to your councils attention the link on here from the disability conference.

Strike? for what?

We always drive slowly during rush hour.

I spent four years trying to dissuade our council from a WAV policy, I don't think a go slow thirteen years on would help to change that. Not that I would want it to.

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I take it you still have the same council as back then??????

No.

There have been many councils that introduced WAV policies over the last 20 odd years I have been involved in the trade. I have yet to hear of one that has reversed a WAV condition of license back to saloon.Unless of course,you know different. There used to be a chap at the DfT called Bert Massie, some job title like dissability access officer, or something like. He wrote to all councils in 1989 advising them to go for 100% WAV. Lincoln did, from 1994. Made them look good in the publics eye, without costing the council a penny, so a double whammy there then. There isn't a Council in the land that is going to reverse a policy that "improves" disabled access, and I am not naiive enough to try to get them to change.

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Well ending up with fewer vehicles certainly doesn't improve access, and of course having no saloons doesn't improve access either.

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Would you care to expand on this theory?

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