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You want to work a town that has de limited mate,the trade has gone flat here in Chelmsford !!

It might be advisable to ask the council to raise the quality control bar.

Regards

JD

Well of course the knowledge test in MV is down to MV and them alone.



Wasn't this the major problem to begin with? Does this mean they are going to revoke the license of the one existing private hire operator in Crawley, or is it to remain? If they don't, then the situation hasn't changed.

Regards

JD

And how do you propose to do that when DfT best practice is to remove restrictions?
I know, it is a major task, maybe a complete review of taxi laws would result in the compromise neccessary between both sides to be achieved.



So you blame the council for your poor returns and working conditions. Just exactly what working conditions are the council obliged to provide and how can the council be held responsible for your poor returns? Are you suggesting the council owes you a duty of care to provide you with a living?

You seem to think I blame the council for everything. I never said that, it's you putting on that interpretation. I know we would need new laws but this is a taxi forum for us all to air our views, not a law-making decision body



Let me guess, you think you should be the one who dictates the taxi licensing policy of Crawley council? Just how many vehicles would you license under the circumstances? If I were a councillor and you came to me and said I can’t make a living as a cab driver, I would put my arm around you and say look Mr Allo, no one forces you to drive a cab, the first priority of this council is to the public, therefore I suggest you choose a profession that will provide you with the level of income to which you are accustomed. That may seem harsh to you but it’s the reality of the world we live in and you only have to see that by the response from the representatives of the various councils in the north East.

Just because you drive a cab and have done for some considerable time you think the council owes you a living. The reality of the situation is that they don’t.

You want future competition restricted and the councils current policy of a level playing field dispensed with to suit you. It is your intention to make the playing field lopsided in your favour by restricting entry thereofre at the same time restricting competition for custom. You have a new soundbyte for competition called "oversupply."

I think we can all associate ourselves with the word oversupply but in the main the word is normally associasted with those areas like your own that are derestricted. However even though we all understand the effects of delimitation, if delimitation is done right and with real tough quality controls then oversupply should not present itself as a problem.

I Quote you "let me guess".
You are the one trying to put all these words and opinions forward as if they were mine.
You really must study what I actually say more closely!
You can denigrate my use of the word oversupply but it is simply an economic term describing a situation of too many suppliers for the number of customers.
I experience this daily, do you? I therefore know what it means to sit for 1.5 hours between two £4 jobs.
Tell me, what do you actually do for a living?



I was comparing your analogy of a company who employs people with that of an administrative body. For the purpose of employment the two are as different as chalk and cheese.



You better put some meat on the bones of this idea because it’s more than a little ambiguous. Are you suggesting that people who don’t drive their own vehicle shouldn’t be allowed to hold a proprietor license? What about transfer of license? Is it your intention to have a clause in future legislation that states licenses are non transferable.

I think the details should be worked out in consultation with the whole trade, my opinions are simply that and I don't pretend to know what the whole trade would want or what would be best. My intention in this thread was to start a debate that covered more than the two extremes of ,total delimitation, and, leave the status quo alone.

Regards

JD

What do you mean IF the owner gave it up? The owner wouldn't give it up unless he had to. He'd hold on to it until death.




But the drivers would still earn according to labour market conditions; only the owner would be better off.

Your claim is like saying that if the number of jumbo jets was limited then that would improve the earnings of baggage handlers.

Wake up Dusty man ........................ for many years I have been trying to get you to understand that the majority ..................... the vast majority in fact of HC drivers in this country actually own the cabs they drive.

Your claims of plate barons controlling the industry in every area across the country are so wide of the mark they don't make sense to the inhabitants of the real world.

Please get a grip and stop sensationalising the situation in order for you to achieve your goal of completely wrecking the HC industry ................ deregulation kills the owner driver far quicker than any of the so called taxi barons, the vast majority of whom provide an excellent service to the people who pay to rent their cabs.

FFS.

B. Lucky

I obviously didn't make myself clear. IMHO the limitation would be on the number of drivers and each driver would be allowed to own one plated cab if he wanted, but many drivers don't want the hassle or commitment so they could rent from an owner if they wanted.

So if anyone can have a plate then why did you say that they'd go to one of the drivers once the owner had given up?

And why the point about non-transferability?

Back to the drawing board?

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Are there less punters then?

Why are you trying to demean it with your petty posting?

I know, it is a major task, maybe a complete review of taxi laws would result in the compromise neccessary between both sides to be achieved.

That is no excuse for poor returns or working conditions

You seem to think I blame the council for everything. I never said that, it's you putting on that interpretation.

You seem to think I blame the council for everything. I never said that, it's you putting on that interpretation.

According to some the Taxi trade doesn't want a complete review of taxi laws. The word Tinker springs to mind.

Regards

JD

Approx 50% increase in HC in less than 18 months is not ideal,90 min waiting between jobs,PH cars who blatently take the P is not helping either and a licence office that does jack s--- about it,a council that has blinkered vision, I am sounding like a grumpy old man .

My less punters question was for the taxi/PH trade overall.

My point being that if before de-limitation you had 100 taxis and 100 PH picking up 200 customers, then why should their be any difference if you now have 150 taxis and 50 PH picking up those same punters.

Of course if there are less punters overall then the decline in trade is not due to de-limitation but a down-turn in the market.