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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:58 am 
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If someone has good reason to, they can apply for an exemption from their licensing authority.

Bad backs are common in the trade. Personaly I use a Recaro seat, with a seperate inflatable lumbar support which I bought online.


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If the driver has a bad back, should he be at work?


it's either our knees or back that give us problems me ole son !!!
and i beg anyone to differ :roll:


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If the driver has a bad back, should he be at work?


it's either our knees or back that give us problems me ole son !!!
and i beg anyone to differ :roll:


Very true, but you would have to have a medical exemption certificate. If not,you will be prosecuted.

However one important thing, if the person concerned is shall we say 20 stone, and you are shall we say 12 stone, then it is not considered unreasonable to refuse.

We were taught that on a wheelchair course by a disabled person, telling us about the rights and the wrongs.

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i also have a bad back, it even aches now, I'm fooked, but the Doc wont accept it, he thinks it suitable to drive, so no excemption

have you seen those siut cases the Chinese students bring over, full of books, how are you expected to lift that lot, where my wife works [Ministry of Defence] they are not allowed to lift anything above 5 kilo or go up a step ladder more 3 steps max

never mind pushing a 25 stone in a wheel chair up a ramp, think we need Health and Safety stood at the rank


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can a driver refuse to push a passenger up the ramps , say due to a bad back, is it down to the carer to load the passenger. and are we covered by normal insurance to load a wheel chair passenger. one slip and they could be rolling down a hill.. :lol:

If anyone feels that a particular fare is too iffy, then as long as they have good reason for doing so they can refuse.

If a ten tonne tubby asked me to load into a WAV, via his/her wheelchair, then I would refuse full-stop.

As for insurance, anyone will be covered for being sued, as long as you acted properly, but that doesn't include your back. :sad:

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However one important thing, if the person concerned is shall we say 20 stone, and you are shall we say 12 stone, then it is not considered unreasonable to refuse.

I think this report helps out a little.

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/wheelchair.pdf

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Very interesting reading.

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grandad wrote:
If the driver has a bad back, should he be at work?
Disabled taxi drivers have rights too

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cabby john wrote:
However one important thing, if the person concerned is shall we say 20 stone, and you are shall we say 12 stone, then it is not considered unreasonable to refuse.

I think this report helps out a little.

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/wheelchair.pdf


Reading the report it would seem in their findings, that they have tended to generalise with regards to what a man and a woman can do strength wise. Looking at the people who were doing the demos, it would seem that they were in their 30/40s, at 60 I am nowhere near as stong as when I was that age.

It is all very well for them to pass the buck, but I do not think they have gone far or deep enough. All I would say, is to have your excuse ready i.e safety - nobody can really argue against that.

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Reading the report it would seem in their findings, that they have tended to generalise with regards to what a man and a woman can do strength wise. Looking at the people who were doing the demos, it would seem that they were in their 30/40s, at 60 I am nowhere near as stong as when I was that age.

Clearly they have to generalise, as I see many 100s of taxi/PH drivers a day, and none of them are the same.

But it gives a good guide as to what Mr and Mrs Average can do.

Work things out on that basis (either bigger, smaller, fatter, thinner etc than average) and I think anyone will be fine. :wink:

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If the driver has a bad back, should he be at work?
Disabled taxi drivers have rights too


Don't we have a medical examination to say that we are fit to do the job?
If a driver does not disclose an injury or illness to the doctor it is their own fault if they get caught out. I can't see how driving a taxi all day can actually help anyone recover from a bad back so until it is good again they shouldn't work.

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grandad wrote:
I can't see how driving a taxi all day can actually help anyone recover from a bad back so until it is good again they shouldn't work.

Many debilitating conditions are permanent grandad. Were not talking about someone who overdid it with the gardening and will recover in a few days.

Or are you saying that disabled people shouldn't be taxi drivers?

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I am saying that if any person is not capable of doing the job FULLY then how can they do the job. Not just taxi driving but any job. Some disabilities don't interfere with the ability to be a taxi driver but having a bad back, I think is one that would make it hard to provide the service required.

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grandad wrote:
I am saying that if any person is not capable of doing the job FULLY then how can they do the job. Not just taxi driving but any job. Some disabilities don't interfere with the ability to be a taxi driver but having a bad back, I think is one that would make it hard to provide the service required.


I see where you are coming from, but 1) the authorities do not want you or I on the dole, 2) How could they discriminate against someone who could do the basics of taxi work 98% of the time. I have actually come across a one armed taxi driver, how could he do the work, or be expected to?

I believe that the bottom line is as already stated, if your doctor ( and I do not see how he/she can refuse) gives you a certificate to say your back cannot handle heavy weights i.e lifting and pushing, then you are in the clear. OR - perhaps they would rather pay you to stay home :-k

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