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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:35 am 
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I think the most pleasing part of this is that I put Oxford down as never going to change without a change of law.


I thought that the DFT and DFT had already changed it, and that all councils in England and wales had to comply and derestrict :?:

Not yet Mr Skippy, but one can hope. :wink:

Like most things this gov does, it's doing it by stealth. :roll:

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70 and 50 grand? Quite a large gap when you consider the real plate value is nearer 85 grand. Obviously these councillors didn't get their figures from TDO.


Where do you get off JD ........ I would suggest that they know a little bit more about whats happening there than you do .................. yet you still consider your figures to be be correct.

Surely if your made up list is to have any credibility then YOUR valuation of the plates in Oxford should be reduced accordingly.

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I think the most pleasing part of this is that I put Oxford down as never going to change without a change of law.


I thought that the DFT and DFT had already changed it, and that all councils in England and wales had to comply and derestrict :?:


You know what thought did.

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the unholy alliance must have "nobbled" oxford city council, i think they may be getting thier way


TDO had nothing whatseoever to do with this latest policy consideration by Oxford City council as you well know? However, considering this research group has grossly underestimated the scarcity value of license plates in their own backyard then I have sent them an email pointing out their mistake.

Whether or not this council research group actually ammends their inaccurate figure of 50k is a matter for them but at least they have been informed of the real figure. I'm quite sure you would want local councillors to base any decision made by them on accurate information, wouldn't you?

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For those who are unaware, this issue was instigated when Oxford City council received an application to license rickshaws. A rickshaw can only be licensed as a hackney carriage.

Considering Oxford restrict hackney carriage licenses then they had a slight problem with this application, hence the investigation into the Oxford hackney carriage structure.

In order to retain their current policy Oxford councillors will eventually have to refuse this application. It would appear these councillors are not that bright because they have asked the legal department to find a way around the 1847 act and license these rickshaws under different legislation? Councillors have been informed that this is not possible.

The only course left is for councillors to refuse the application which would in turn probably lead to an appeal by the Rickshaw applicant?

A failed court case could have dire consequencies on the current hackney carriage policy of Oxford City council and this should be pointed out to all councillors.

Interesting situation we have here which I'm sure will make very interesting reading should this issue ever go to court?

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the unholy alliance must have "nobbled" oxford city council, i think they may be getting thier way


TDO had nothing whatseoever to do with this latest policy consideration by Oxford City council as you well know? However, considering this research group has grossly underestimated the scarcity value of license plates in their own backyard then I have sent them an email pointing out their mistake.

Whether or not this council research group actually ammends their inaccurate figure of 50k is a matter for them but at least they have been informed of the real figure. I'm quite sure you would want local councillors to base any decision made by them on accurate information, wouldn't you?

JD


and I have sent one suggesting the true value is £40k ............ I have sent them contac t details to allow them to verify my identity, and suggested that they asked the same of anyone else who tries to influence their decisions FROM OUTSIDE THEIR AREA.

B. Lucky :wink:

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£100k, £85k, £50k, £40k or a fiver + bag of chips.

It's still too much for what was issued by a council for free.

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the unholy alliance must have "nobbled" oxford city council, i think they may be getting thier way


TDO had nothing whatseoever to do with this latest policy consideration by Oxford City council as you well know? However, considering this research group has grossly underestimated the scarcity value of license plates in their own backyard then I have sent them an email pointing out their mistake.

Whether or not this council research group actually ammends their inaccurate figure of 50k is a matter for them but at least they have been informed of the real figure. I'm quite sure you would want local councillors to base any decision made by them on accurate information, wouldn't you?

JD


and I have sent one suggesting the true value is £40k ............ I have sent them contac t details to allow them to verify my identity, and suggested that they asked the same of anyone else who tries to influence their decisions FROM OUTSIDE THEIR AREA.

B. Lucky :wink:


I think youre a Cambridge man on the quiet and are trying to reduce the value of Mr 187ums asset? I don't think 187 ums will be too pleased at the value you place on his plate, considering what he paid for it?

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you are funny mr davies from cheshire trying to promote tdo on the quiet,

anyway tonight we have nick griffin and david irving coming to the oxford union, should they be allowed a platform and thier views heard? or should they be sent home?


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you are funny mr davies from cheshire trying to promote tdo on the quiet,

anyway tonight we have nick griffin and david irving coming to the oxford union, should they be allowed a platform and thier views heard? or should they be sent home?


You are referring to the few comments I made on the Oxford Mail website. I notice that several contributions prior to my own brought up the subject of plate values. It was noted that these readers projections were far higher than my own conservative estimate made several years ago. However I'm sure you don't mind the accurate scarcity value of your license plate being correctly catalogued for the local travelling public, do you?

Any opportunity for a TDO plug is always welcome. lol


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I wonder how much capital gains tax has been paid over the years due to the selling of plates in Oxford?

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One thing that did come to light is that three councillors each own a licensed hackney carriage vehicle and five have driver licenses of some sort?

I understand that these three councillors have held hackney carriage proprietor licenses for a considerable number of years but I am not in a position to know at this moment in time how long they have been councillors? However anyone in their right mind can instantly see they have a conflict of interest when it comes to removing 85 grand from their personal portfolio?

I think such information would only add to the weight of the case of Mr Rickshaw when he eventually goes to court?

By the way Mr 187 ums why didn't you advise everyone on TDO that this review came about because of the rickshaw application instead of dressing it up as an intervention from TDO?

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The only course left is for councillors to refuse the application which would in turn probably lead to an appeal by the Rickshaw applicant?

And in my most unprofessional view, the Rickshaw mob will win. :shock:

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I wonder how much capital gains tax has been paid over the years due to the selling of plates in Oxford?

£0.

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I wonder how much capital gains tax has been paid over the years due to the selling of plates in Oxford?

£0.
Sounds about right

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