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Would this be the same shock we where to prepare for the last time and the time before that. :oops:

Please remind me Mr saf if you said that to Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri? :?


Please keep up to date with the situation Sussex,Ali T and Mr Salteri won there plates on a technicality along with the other three,now as far as i am aware only one of the five have, and drive their own taxi.Ali T has just sold his plate i believe so good luck to him,it's just a shame all the bleating about his high morals he said he had went out the window.So as far as i am aware the council do still restrict the numbers,there is no de-regulation and yes the dynamic duds and the others who have their applications in, may or may not get a plate,but i will guarantee you this,if they do get a plate you will hear soon after that they have sold them on.As i say this whole saga is "for their own personal gain". :shock:


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You don't half go on about things Skull. :lol:

Realise once and for all Skull, the dream is over, there will not be any derestriction of the Taxi trade in Edinburgh for the foreseeable future. :)


Stu, you are a fecking ar*e. Who the feck would want de-restriction?
Plates are selling at 50K a time, and erse*les like you are buying them.

This is about lining up mugs for the slaughter.

De-restriction will come, but the council cannot afford to let it happen, just yet.

This is about keeping the ball in the air - you being the ball :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ask yourself: what happens when we win? More applications perhaps? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


This would be the same "mugs" you lined up when you sold your plates to them for a tidy profit.Just remember Gary, how long that money lasted you,and how long the money if you where to succeed would last you.You have just said it's not a lot of money nowadays.So what next,would it be another crusade against the council for yet another plate. :shock: :shock: Gary you know for a fact that they will never de-restict the trade,never.


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You don't half go on about things Skull. :lol:

Realise once and for all Skull, the dream is over, there will not be any derestriction of the Taxi trade in Edinburgh for the foreseeable future. :)


Stu, you are a fecking ar*e. Who the feck would want de-restriction?
Plates are selling at 50K a time, and erse*les like you are buying them.

This is about lining up mugs for the slaughter.

De-restriction will come, but the council cannot afford to let it happen, just yet.

This is about keeping the ball in the air - you being the ball :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ask yourself: what happens when we win? More applications perhaps? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


This would be the same "mugs" you lined up when you sold your plates to them for a tidy profit.Just remember Gary, how long that money lasted you,and how long the money if you where to succeed would last you.You have just said it's not a lot of money nowadays.So what next,would it be another crusade against the council for yet another plate. :shock: :shock: Gary you know for a fact that they will never de-restict the trade,never.


No, you know for a fact they will. You see that's the problem, both you and the council know it's inevitable. If not because of plate values and drivers struggling to get shifts then through EU legislation, but it's coming. Their policy to restrict numbers is unsustainable in the long term, and getting humped in court on a regular basis doesn't help matters.


The council are struggling Saf, the more we do battle the more we learn how to defeat them politically and legally.

I would be surprised if this makes it into court - councillors in the witness box, cross-examined by a QC - I don't think so somehow . . .


You see Saf, Councillors are political animals, they won't risk damaging their political careers. On the other hand, councillors being forced to take to the witness box to prove policy decisions is a first. This could set a bad precedent for councils up and down the country.

Now I ask you Saf, if you were councillor Keir would you risk it?

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Skull wrote:
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You don't half go on about things Skull. :lol:

Realise once and for all Skull, the dream is over, there will not be any derestriction of the Taxi trade in Edinburgh for the foreseeable future. :)


Stu, you are a fecking ar*e. Who the feck would want de-restriction?
Plates are selling at 50K a time, and erse*les like you are buying them.

This is about lining up mugs for the slaughter.

De-restriction will come, but the council cannot afford to let it happen, just yet.

This is about keeping the ball in the air - you being the ball :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ask yourself: what happens when we win? More applications perhaps? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


This would be the same "mugs" you lined up when you sold your plates to them for a tidy profit.Just remember Gary, how long that money lasted you,and how long the money if you where to succeed would last you.You have just said it's not a lot of money nowadays.So what next,would it be another crusade against the council for yet another plate. :shock: :shock: Gary you know for a fact that they will never de-restict the trade,never.


No, you know for a fact they will. You see that's the problem, both you and the council know it's inevitable. If not because of plate values and drivers struggling to get shifts then through EU legislation, but it's coming. Their policy to restrict numbers is unsustainable in the long term, and getting humped in court on a regular basis doesn't help matters.


The council are struggling Saf, the more we do battle the more we learn how to defeat them politically and legally.

I would be surprised if this makes it into court - councillors in the witness box, cross-examined by a QC - I don't think so somehow . . .


You see Saf, Councillors are political animals, they won't risk damaging their political careers. On the other hand, councillors being forced to take to the witness box to prove policy decisions is a first. This could set a bad precedent for councils up and down the country.

Now I ask you Saf, if you were councillor Keir would you risk it?


So your vision Gary is you win your case and then everybody who wants to put a taxi on the road does.Lets just say for instance that initially one or two hundred guys put a taxi on the road and then the following year another one or two hundred,where does it stop?Do you honestly believe that this will be allowed to happen because of EU legislation. :?


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Please remind me Mr saf if you said that to Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri?


Please remind me Mr sussex are they driving their own taxis ?


Why the feck would they want to do that? Mugs are lining up to throw 50K at them.


You know Ross, It wouldn't be surprised if Ali sticks in another application
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Don't you know that Ali's high standards of morals wouldn't let him do that. :shock:
It's not moral standards that allow this. It is the restricted market you support.

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So your vision Gary is you win your case and then everybody who wants to put a taxi on the road does.Lets just say for instance that initially one or two hundred guys put a taxi on the road and then the following year another one or two hundred,where does it stop?Do you honestly believe that this will be allowed to happen because of EU legislation. :?


No. If this happens, it will be because the Scottish courts say so.
If Skull and Jasbar win, the council must grant all live applications.
Anyone know how many live applications there are?

EU legislation, if it happens, should remove the need for court action and derestrict the market anyway.

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if you were councillor Keir would you risk it?


Politicians tend to weigh everything up first. What has he to lose against what has he to gain. Work that out and you will have your answer.

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saf wrote:
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You don't half go on about things Skull. :lol:

Realise once and for all Skull, the dream is over, there will not be any derestriction of the Taxi trade in Edinburgh for the foreseeable future. :)


Stu, you are a fecking ar*e. Who the feck would want de-restriction?
Plates are selling at 50K a time, and erse*les like you are buying them.

This is about lining up mugs for the slaughter.

De-restriction will come, but the council cannot afford to let it happen, just yet.

This is about keeping the ball in the air - you being the ball :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ask yourself: what happens when we win? More applications perhaps? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


This would be the same "mugs" you lined up when you sold your plates to them for a tidy profit.Just remember Gary, how long that money lasted you,and how long the money if you where to succeed would last you.You have just said it's not a lot of money nowadays.So what next,would it be another crusade against the council for yet another plate. :shock: :shock: Gary you know for a fact that they will never de-restict the trade,never.


No, you know for a fact they will. You see that's the problem, both you and the council know it's inevitable. If not because of plate values and drivers struggling to get shifts then through EU legislation, but it's coming. Their policy to restrict numbers is unsustainable in the long term, and getting humped in court on a regular basis doesn't help matters.


The council are struggling Saf, the more we do battle the more we learn how to defeat them politically and legally.

I would be surprised if this makes it into court - councillors in the witness box, cross-examined by a QC - I don't think so somehow . . .


You see Saf, Councillors are political animals, they won't risk damaging their political careers. On the other hand, councillors being forced to take to the witness box to prove policy decisions is a first. This could set a bad precedent for councils up and down the country.

Now I ask you Saf, if you were councillor Keir would you risk it?


So your vision Gary is you win your case and then everybody who wants to put a taxi on the road does.Lets just say for instance that initially one or two hundred guys put a taxi on the road and then the following year another one or two hundred,where does it stop?Do you honestly believe that this will be allowed to happen because of EU legislation. :?


Look, the owners of the future are just the drivers of the present day. The only difference being, owning or renting, it’s still the same guy doing the same job - double shifted taxis then become single shifted. Only an increase in drivers entering the trade causes greater competition for fares. The “owners“, totally dependent on their drivers propping them up would be the ones to suffer. Within a quality control model they would adapt or die, the weak get rooted out.

Rentals would then become available at a free market rate, while plate “values” would disappear completely.

Garages would stable taxis for hire by brief holders, that’s if you choose not to rent form a private individual.

The guy I driver for now owns 7 taxis, but he would like to stable a fleet of 30 plus. As he put it “ even if he made £100 a cab that’s 9K a month”.


As Gusmac says “ it is the restricted market you support” the causes this to happen in the first place.

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if you were councillor Keir would you risk it?


Politicians tend to weigh everything up first. What has he to lose against what has he to gain. Work that out and you will have your answer.


Political Survival! :wink:

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So your vision Gary is you win your case and then everybody who wants to put a taxi on the road does.Lets just say for instance that initially one or two hundred guys put a taxi on the road and then the following year another one or two hundred,where does it stop?Do you honestly believe that this will be allowed to happen because of EU legislation. :?


No. If this happens, it will be because the Scottish courts say so.
If Skull and Jasbar win, the council must grant all live applications.
Anyone know how many livjavascript:emoticon(':roll:')
Rolling Eyese applications there are?

EU legislation, if it happens, should remove the need for court action and derestrict the market anyway.



Imagine coming here from Poland and being told you can drive a taxi and earn a living but you can't own a taxi and do the same job unless you part with 50K, it beggars belief . . . .

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Please keep up to date with the situation Sussex.

I will repeat what I said in reply to Mr Ross, my point isn't over the rights and wrongs of the situation, although I believe Mr Taylor is right, but that folks like you were ripping the pi** out of Mr Ali T up until he got his free plate.

And then it all went very quiet. :-$

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Please remind me Mr saf if you said that to Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri?


Please remind me Mr sussex are they driving their own taxis ?

I couldn't care less, but the point Mr saf was alluding to was that Mr Taylor was wasting his time, but that same accusation was made against Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri.

Now Mr Taylor may not be successful, but I hope he is, in the same way that both Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri were.


Successful? Interesting concept?

What measures success? A quick licence kil in May? Or a long war of attrition?

I think I prefer the long drawn out war of attrition that would be torture for the mental defectives like saf, stu and ross.

I just wonder though whether any of them told their good ladies, always assuming they're not gay of course - well at least homophobic ross surely can't be - about the money they've spent of their kids inheritance and how they're not going to get it back?

I can just imagibe stu organisation a family gathering round the table, then telling them that although taxi plates "have no intrinsic value (Donald Anderson - former council leader)" he was going to spend 50 big ones to buy one.

Perhaps we should be speaking to mrs stu, just to let her know what her bright hubbie has done :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Please keep up to date with the situation Sussex.

I will repeat what I said in reply to Mr Ross, my point isn't over the rights and wrongs of the situation, although I believe Mr Taylor is right, but that folks like you were ripping the pi** out of Mr Ali T up until he got his free plate.

And then it all went very quiet. :-$


Wrong,we still ripped the p*ss and continue to do so. :-$ :-$


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Please remind me Mr saf if you said that to Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri?


Please remind me Mr sussex are they driving their own taxis ?

I couldn't care less, but the point Mr saf was alluding to was that Mr Taylor was wasting his time, but that same accusation was made against Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri.

Now Mr Taylor may not be successful, but I hope he is, in the same way that both Mr Ali T and Mr Salteri were.


Successful? Interesting concept?

What measures success? A quick licence kil in May? Or a long war of attrition?

I think I prefer the long drawn out war of attrition that would be torture for the mental defectives like saf, stu and ross.

I just wonder though whether any of them told their good ladies, always assuming they're not gay of course - well at least homophobic ross surely can't be - about the money they've spent of their kids inheritance and how they're not going to get it back?

I can just imagibe stu organisation a family gathering round the table, then telling them that although taxi plates "have no intrinsic value (Donald Anderson - former council leader)" he was going to spend 50 big ones to buy one.

Perhaps we should be speaking to mrs stu, just to let her know what her bright hubbie has done :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I don't know if Mrs Taylor has asked what your next move will be and how long you are going to subject both her and your daughter to this endless crusade.Maybe you should stop and think about them for a change Jim :sad: "Mental defectives" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You have got to laugh.


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saf wrote:
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Please keep up to date with the situation Sussex.

I will repeat what I said in reply to Mr Ross, my point isn't over the rights and wrongs of the situation, although I believe Mr Taylor is right, but that folks like you were ripping the pi** out of Mr Ali T up until he got his free plate.

And then it all went very quiet. :-$


Wrong,we still ripped the p*ss and continue to do so. :-$ :-$


Granted for around £1250 and sold for around £50000. That's 4000% profit. Good dough if you can get it. If I were him I'd apply for a few more and getting the pis* taken, I think I could handle that. 8)

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