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With regard to Private Hire I have a letter from Pippa Brown at the DfT whom I wrote to confirm their view on PHV cross-border problems.
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" the law as stated in Dittah and Choudhry v Birmingham CC (1993) ........ is still good law. Our view remains as explained in the extract from the Department's letter......cited in the judgment...... namely that a PHV Operator requires a licence from the area in which he intends to operate, and may only use vehicles and drivers licensed in the same area.

This means an Adur PHV car/driver cannot work for an Operator licensed by B&H. And if the operator has an operators licence issued by Adur as well as a B&H operators licence but has his operation in B&H then he should be prosecuted by B&H for using the Adur drivers/cars because the Adur Operators licence has no standing.

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allo allo wrote:
And if the operator has an operators licence issued by Adur as well as a B&H operators licence but has his operation in B&H then he should be prosecuted by B&H for using the Adur drivers/cars because the Adur Operators licence has no standing.

A source of mine says that has happened. :shock:

But there is still debate over direct lines. :-$

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allo allo wrote:
And if the operator has an operators licence issued by Adur as well as a B&H operators licence but has his operation in B&H then he should be prosecuted by B&H for using the Adur drivers/cars because the Adur Operators licence has no standing.

A source of mine says that has happened. :shock:

But there is still debate over direct lines. :-$


Do you mean the operator has been prosecuted by B&H?

I may be being thick but I don't understand your reference to direct lines.
Can you enlighten me?

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allo allo wrote:
Do you mean the operator has been prosecuted by B&H?

Oh yes. :shock:

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allo allo wrote:
I may be being thick but I don't understand your reference to direct lines.
Can you enlighten me?

A direct line is viewed, by many, as being an extention of your office i.e. it doesn't go through an exchange.

So if an operator picks up the phone in area B, where they don't have a license, as long as that call went via their office in area A, where they do have a license, then IMO no offence is committed.

So you could have a senario such as the one you have, and in my view it's legal. :shock:

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Sussex wrote:
allo allo wrote:
I may be being thick but I don't understand your reference to direct lines.
Can you enlighten me?

A direct line is viewed, by many, as being an extention of your office i.e. it doesn't go through an exchange.

So if an operator picks up the phone in area B, where they don't have a license, as long as that call went via their office in area A, where they do have a license, then IMO no offence is committed.

So you could have a senario such as the one you have, and in my view it's legal. :shock:


Sorry, I was being thick, I was posting after having just gone to Stockport and back so my brain was a bit slow.
Couldn't agree more though, it's not where the passenger is that's important, it's where the PHV office is that is the determining factor.
Doesn't matter if the booking is made by mobile phone or direct line ( as in Ditta & Choudhry ) or even by smoke signals (though this hasn't been tested in court ! ).

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allo allo wrote:
Couldn't agree more though, it's not where the passenger is that's important, it's where the PHV office is that is the determining factor.
Doesn't matter if the booking is made by mobile phone or direct line ( as in Ditta & Choudhry ) or even by smoke signals (though this hasn't been tested in court ! ).

I agree with that, but I also add that in the direct line case it may not matter where the booking is taken.

And that really is a p**ser. :?

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As usual 'JD', your constant contributor turns the argument to his advantage to call for 'A new taxi act' and to end 'Quantity Controls'. I say that this matter can be resolved by discussion and maybe it is a new area to be explored for under unmet demand in the next Newcastle or Berwick surveys. It is a problem that can be looked at and I am sure that it can be sorted.

I would like to thank JD for his article, but not everyones life revolves around deregulation and new taxi acts. So keep up the supply of info but don't be so bitter. People might think your an agitator.

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TS


Good that is it not!! :P


Perhaps you can enlighten us as to What's so good about it?

Is it the fact that Mr TS was completely out of his depth or the fact that his prediction fell flat on its face?

I see Newcastle eventually took the action I predicted, how uncanny?

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