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 Post subject: Watford Station
PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:36 pm 
The Watford station situation is turning out to be very interesting. I've contacted four Cab firms in the last eighteen hours to try and get to the bottom of whats going on down there and how it started.

It appears the situation arose because of a dispute the Hackney drivers had with the station, over a direct line the station allowed to be installed by a P/H company.

All four Cab companies I talked to have told me the P/H vehicles are ranking up at the station Cab rank. I really do find this hard to believe, but one can only draw the conclusion that the people I spoke to are either correct or mistaken. One of the Hackney radio system operators I talked to told me the council were not being very co-operative.

I also spoke to an operator at AA united who wasn't very forthcoming. He did tell me that United had the contract for 10 or 12 years, that doesnt correspond with what I was told last night by another most well informed source.

I would like to know if anyone has an opinion on how to legally get the P/H vehicles off the station or indeed has an alternative opinion on why the Hackney Drivers can't force the Railway to remove the P/H vehicles.

I guess I'm testing your legal knowledge now but it will be interesting to see your opinions to say the least.

I will be contacting both Watford council and Silverlink on Monday. I shall post their comments so you will be in no doubt as to what the situation is.

Best wishes.

John Davies
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:48 pm 
You don't have to look far, last year for instance our old mate TAXIBANK who tried to run Peterbourgh, Darlington, York, Newcastle with PH firms, it lasted all of 2 months after GNER told TAXIBANK to move their cars off the station forecourt.

You must be 1 sad man to phone the firms in Watford :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


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So can someone define the term 'ranking up'?

And how you distinquish it from legitimate parking in a reserved area set aside for vehicles from a company renting the facility?

On our local forecourt there was a space reserved for City Link and Network Rail vans.

And Nidge try being civil in your response :wink:

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I don't think he is sad, one little bit.

He is just trying to get the info from the horse's gob.

If the HC boys wish to get onto the station land, they have to make their peace with the station owners/lease-holders. That doesn't mean shake hands and have a beer, but pay the required fee.

If they don't, then they can be accused of trespassing.

If the station people say the PH can go onto the station, then they can. It's very grey about where they sit, but really only a court can say if where they sit is illegal.

If the local council don't wish to do anything, then there is not a lot that can be done.

See Ged at Manchester. :(

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Tom Thumb wrote:
So can someone define the term 'ranking up'?


I think that's the problem, each case if different from the other.

I suppose it all depends on what Joe Public thinks.

If he thinks a line of PHs is really a line of HCs, then that could be viewed as a rank. But it could also be viewed as a line of PHs waiting for a radio job.

I would have thought the council (or local trade) would have tried hiring one at Watford, without going to the booking office.

But perhaps they have, and they got referred to the booking office.

To me, if that happens then nothing illegal is happening.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:18 pm 
Nidge wrote:
You don't have to look far, last year for instance our old mate TAXIBANK who tried to run Peterbourgh, Darlington, York, Newcastle with PH firms, it lasted all of 2 months after GNER told TAXIBANK to move their cars off the station forecourt.

You must be 1 sad man to phone the firms in Watford :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


It's called seeking the truth, something you know very little about. I made made my point with you when you posted a fabrication of the truth and tried to atribute it to an honorable man. You had the opportunity to exonarate yourself but as yet you failed to do so.

The point about submitting an argument is knowing that when you submit it you are in complete command of the facts. An opinion is just that an opinion. When I post something I try to differention between fact and opinion, more often than not you inject opinion as fact.

Now then Brains, how do you get the P/h off the station? shall we save everyone the wait and just inform them that u dont have a fackin clue.

John Davies
Seeker of the Facts and the Truth.


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John

You have to accept that Nidge has never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

He loves to spout 'rumour' as 'gospel'.

Still he told us all that he was finished with this trade in the New Year last December. Another broken promise I guess.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:36 am 
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John

You have to accept that Nidge has never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

He loves to spout 'rumour' as 'gospel'.

Still he told us all that he was finished with this trade in the New Year last December. Another broken promise I guess.



Tom,
ranking up if one car puts its nose tio the others back its a rank if its in the same place where arank was its definitly ranking up.

at christmas nige was looking for sympathy and got to much, it seems hes staying :cry: :cry: :cry:


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 7:38 am 
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Tom Thumb wrote:
John

You have to accept that Nidge has never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

He loves to spout 'rumour' as 'gospel'.

Still he told us all that he was finished with this trade in the New Year last December. Another broken promise I guess.



Tom,
ranking up if one car puts its nose tio the others back its a rank if its in the same place where arank was its definitly ranking up.

at christmas nige was looking for sympathy and got to much, it seems hes staying :cry: :cry: :cry:


Wrong again Geoffrey, got an interview on Tuesday :D :D :D :D


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I suspect there is a couple of dozen drivers on here, who would be more than pleased to give you a reference. :wink:

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All references are in place :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 8:24 pm 
John Davies wrote:
Nidge wrote:
You don't have to look far, last year for instance our old mate TAXIBANK who tried to run Peterbourgh, Darlington, York, Newcastle with PH firms, it lasted all of 2 months after GNER told TAXIBANK to move their cars off the station forecourt.

You must be 1 sad man to phone the firms in Watford :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


It's called seeking the truth, something you know very little about. I made made my point with you when you posted a fabrication of the truth and tried to atribute it to an honorable man. The point about submitting an argument is knowing that when you submit it you are in complete command of the facts. An opinion is just that an opinion. When I post something I try to differention between fact and opinion, more often than not you inject opinion as fact.

Now then Brains, how do you get the P/h off the station? shall we save everyone the wait and just inform them that u dont have a fackin clue.

John Davies
Seeker of the Facts and the Truth.


Easy way to get Private Hire off a Station Forecourt like they have done in Watford, enforce the law. Any PH in public view ranking up on PRIVATE LAND must be out of view of the public, you phoned a few of Watford's Taxi firms, well that was a waste of time because all the lads on the station are owner drivers.

Please could you tell me where I posted something that fabricated the truth and which honurable man did I try to blame??? :(


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:07 pm 
Nigel

This debate is getting just a little intemperate. this e-mail should be withdrawn.

nowthen I suppose those in Watford aint a clue whats going on whilst those in Mansfield have.

you are badly losing this debate Nigel and all because you set yourself up as the font of all knowledge.

Why phoning is a waste of time Iam at a complete loss


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Nidge wrote:
Easy way to get Private Hire off a Station Forecourt like they have done in Watford, enforce the law. Any PH in public view ranking up on PRIVATE LAND must be out of view of the public, you phoned a few of Watford's Taxi firms, well that was a waste of time because all the lads on the station are owner drivers.


I think you have missed the point, that the PH boys are still there. :shock:

Thus if it was easy, they wouldn't be. :?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:07 pm 
Nidge wrote:
John Davies wrote:
Nidge wrote:
You don't have to look far, last year for instance our old mate TAXIBANK who tried to run Peterbourgh, Darlington, York, Newcastle with PH firms, it lasted all of 2 months after GNER told TAXIBANK to move their cars off the station forecourt.

You must be 1 sad man to phone the firms in Watford :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :?


It's called seeking the truth, something you know very little about. I made made my point with you when you posted a fabrication of the truth and tried to atribute it to an honorable man. The point about submitting an argument is knowing that when you submit it you are in complete command of the facts. An opinion is just that an opinion. When I post something I try to differention between fact and opinion, more often than not you inject opinion as fact.

Now then Brains, how do you get the P/h off the station? shall we save everyone the wait and just inform them that u dont have a fackin clue.

John Davies
Seeker of the Facts and the Truth.


Easy way to get Private Hire off a Station Forecourt like they have done in Watford, enforce the law. (


I don't believe I mentioned Forecourt, but just for your benefit I'll say it again.

"Now then Brains, how do you get the P/h off the station? shall we save everyone the wait and just inform them that u dont have a fackin clue"

"Station" Period????? Not Forecourt. Tell us how you do it? Like I said, you don't have clue.

JD


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