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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:27 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
whats best

take £20,000 but spend £5000 in fuel or...

get 80% of £20,000 and spend nowt in fuel?

But on your figures I'd actually be getting 80% of £15,000 (net profit). Or 70% some months, or 0% in other months.

While spending £2-3,000 keeping the car on the road, while barely turning a wheel :-o

And I'm one of the lucky ones :roll:

In fact, I'm maybe not that lucky, because I've no doubt some are doing quite well out of it all. And, if you look back, you might find I was saying that very thing almost a year ago when SEISS was first announced. In fact I'll have a look later - shouldn't be too hard to find :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:17 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
whats best

take £20,000 but spend £5000 in fuel or...

get 80% of £20,000 and spend nowt in fuel?

But on your figures I'd actually be getting 80% of £15,000 (net profit). Or 70% some months, or 0% in other months.

While spending £2-3,000 keeping the car on the road, while barely turning a wheel :-o

And I'm one of the lucky ones :roll:

In fact, I'm maybe not that lucky, because I've no doubt some are doing quite well out of it all. And, if you look back, you might find I was saying that very thing almost a year ago when SEISS was first announced. In fact I'll have a look later - shouldn't be too hard to find :wink:



anytime i get offered 80% to NOT work ill be available

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:18 pm 
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While spending £2-3,000 keeping the car on the road, while barely turning a wheel



FFS.... mine cost me less than that and i did 20,000 in lockdown

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:07 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
anytime i get offered 80% to NOT work ill be available

:roll: Depends on your circumstances, though. If I was earning £30k ordinarily then, yes, I'd be cock-a-hoop to get a couple of grand a month not to work. Even though I've got rent to pay, while some drivers will be living rent- or mortgage-free.

But unfortunately my circumstances aren't quite like that, and the grant has been 70% or zero for a lot of the time as well, and trade's been largely wiped out for a year here now.


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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:08 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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While spending £2-3,000 keeping the car on the road, while barely turning a wheel

FFS.... mine cost me less than that and i did 20,000 in lockdown

So how much was your insurance, badge and plate, MoT and repairs and maintenance for the year, roughly?

And no car repayments and interest, presumably? (In that regard I'm lucky as well, but plenty others aren't.)

To be clear, the near-£700 I paid for my badge and plate in the autumn does cover three years, but I still had to find the cash :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:12 pm 
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If the car didnt move...

£1300 insurance, £122 plate, £20 tax..

PH ops is £250 for a 5 year licence (£50/year) badge is £170 for 3 years

Id park up for the 80%

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:47 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
I think this has been started by the PHTM people but has been brought to my attention and I think there is no reason why members on here shouldn't be signing this

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/573116

so 1048 signatures so far and 10000 needed to get the governments attention so 10% of the way and feel free to bring it to the attention of folk not on here

2575 now

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 7:41 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
If the car didnt move...

£1300 insurance, £122 plate, £20 tax..

PH ops is £250 for a 5 year licence (£50/year) badge is £170 for 3 years

Id park up for the 80%



Some of us did but got nowt.


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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 9:10 pm 
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heathcote wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
If the car didnt move...

£1300 insurance, £122 plate, £20 tax..

PH ops is £250 for a 5 year licence (£50/year) badge is £170 for 3 years

Id park up for the 80%



Some of us did but got nowt.




A local 1 man car owner but registered as a ltd company for 11 years dissolved his ltd company in january 2020 and went to sole trader

im guessing he made a big mistake, very bad timing

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:26 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Id park up for the 80%

Ok, we've now established what *you* would do, but your original point was about what others would do, whose circumstances you don't know.

And if you did 20,000 miles during lockdown year, seems a bit odd that you're telling everyone that you'd gladly park up while just receiving the SEISS grant?

And you haven't addressed the point about the 70% and 0% periods.

Anyway, here's what you said earlier:

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BUT, you had no running costs (looking at the SEISS grants) so you were probably no worse of after not buying fuel, tyres, servicing, etc AND you were sat at home...

But now you're acknowledging that your fixed insurance costs would be £1,300, and with badge, plates, car tax and MoT, that's presumably the thick end of £2k?

Add in depreciation, and even on an older car that would take total fixed costs to between £2-3,000 without turning a wheel. And a lot more than that for a newer, more expensive car. And even the interest on a loan for a decent motor could come to a four-figure sum in a year.


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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:09 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
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the ARG is not being paid to anyone in receipt of Seiss


That is not true here in Melton.



it is in Lincolnshire !


It is in Lincoln.

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:31 pm 
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Over the last twelve months, there is no doubt that collectively huge sums of money in the form of loans and grants has been thrown at the taxi industry and others. For some it would appear to be not enough, whilst others have been grateful for the support they have received, and others have had no help at all. Sounds a bit like this little piggy went to market...
Where the schiesen will hit the fan though, is the next twelve months, or 24 months, or 36 months, where income levels remain low, as they will, and the government largesse dries up. If you are wholly dependent on handouts to survive, you are facing a rocky road ahead.
I cannot see any return to normal ( whatever that is) any time soon. Do you?

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:15 pm 
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I cannot see any return to normal ( whatever that is) any time soon. Do you?

It depends on what your primary market is.

If it's corporate or airports, then it will be a struggle. But if normal run of the mill taxi/PH work then I think things will get better.

If folks can't, or won't, go abroad then the local travel markets will boom, and home grown tourists will be flooding the seasides and other places of interest.

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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:31 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Sign the petition
PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:08 pm 
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the ARG is not being paid to anyone in receipt of Seiss


Totally NOT connected, the ARG is from funding sent to your area (£20 per head of population here)

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The Additional Restrictions Grant (ARG) supports businesses that are not covered by other grant schemes or where additional funding is needed.

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