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Author:  Stinky Pete [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:01 am ]
Post subject:  Breaking the disability law
Sorry if I have missed anything, been a bit ill just lately and also had a mishap in a shopping centre when I tripped up over a piece of plastic binding tape, but I am ok, bit of bruising but live with that.

anyway on to the nitty gritty

a question arose the other day by a driver with a WA who doesn't have a York railway permit
we all know WA's are thin on the ground in the York railway stn rank

the WA driver drops off at the Station, someone in a wheelchair passenger summons the driver and comes over and says, could you take me to so and so

so the driver says, sorry I can't pick you up, i ain't got a permit, sorry can't pick you up
so does he break the trespass laws of the railway and pick them up, or the disability laws of turning the disable passenger down cos he's on railway property
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breaking the disability law
Stinky Pete wrote:
so the driver says, sorry I can't pick you up, i ain't got a permit, sorry can't pick you up
so does he break the trespass laws of the railway and pick them up, or the disability laws of turning the disable passenger down cos he's on railway property

He would have a reasonable excuse not to pick up the lady, in the same way a Manchester black cab wouldn't be able to pick her up at that station.

But every little episode like this helps the cause of breaking the station monopoly. :wink:
Author:  JD [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Breaking the disability law
Stinky Pete wrote:
so does he break the trespass laws of the railway and pick them up, or the disability laws of turning the disable passenger down cos he's on railway property


Very interesting but if he's not "allowed" to ply for hire on the station, then he is not available for hire.

Regards

JD
Author:  Darren63 [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:32 pm ]
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We have a similar situation down here with 1 office holding all the station passes.

If I happen to be dropping off a fare a there are fares waiting I will not pull on the rank and pick up, but if they hail me as I'm pulling away I will generally take them.

Not holding a permit is not "reasonable excuse" for turning way a customer in my opinion.
Author:  Guest [ Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:56 pm ]
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Just give the person your mobile phone and ask them to ring your office and request you - easy!
Author:  JD [ Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:33 am ]
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Darren63 wrote:
Not holding a permit is not "reasonable excuse" for turning way a customer in my opinion.


If you are plying for hire on Railway property without their permission then you are committing an offence. Picking up a pre booked job does not constitute plying for hire, If you think of an appropriate excuse for plying for on railway property without their permission we would all be interested to hear it and so would those who have already been prosecuted.

Regards

JD
Author:  Darren63 [ Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:19 pm ]
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I was unaware of prosecutions for such things so excuse my ignorance.

So it basically reverts back to the original response of does it constitute reasonable excuse? what would the council say if the person I refused were to report me?

Should I therefore leave people standing in a dark station at midnite when I'm dropping off because the station doesn't have enough cover?

It's a bit of a dilemna aint it. :?

All this being said I'm talking like it's a regular occurance for me but I'm lucky if it happens once a year, but it's nice to know where I'd stand.
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:23 pm ]
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Darren63 wrote:
Should I therefore leave people standing in a dark station at midnite when I'm dropping off because the station doesn't have enough cover?

I suppose you could ask them to walk out of the station, or ring your office.

But picking them up without the permission of the land owner is an offence, so your LO can't do anything about it. :wink:
Author:  Darren63 [ Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:27 pm ]
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I'm an independant hack so the office is a no go.

Getting them to walk may not be feasable if they're elderly, ok if not.

Sod it, now I know I'll just have to leave them there. :lol:
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:03 pm ]
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Darren63 wrote:
I'm an independant hack so the office is a no go.

If you have got a mobile, you have an office. :wink:
Author:  smiffyz (geoff) [ Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:15 am ]
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You cant, but in general just blow it in and the punters name will appear on your screen in an instant, then you can take em and sod the rest.
Author:  Bart [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:26 pm ]
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Surely the law is that you can't refuse the fair because of the passengers disability. If someone in a wheelchair is drunk and abusive for example wouldn't the driver be within his rights to refuse them?

I had a wheelchair user with a dog recently ( Not a guide or assistance dog ) I refused the fare because I don't take dogs.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:50 pm ]
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Bart wrote:
If someone in a wheelchair is drunk and abusive for example wouldn't the driver be within his rights to refuse them?

Oh yes.
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