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jozefbloggz
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:44 pm 
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the two companies who merged to form glasgo cabs were both very big companies,mainly p/h cars,but both had a number of hackney cabs in their fleets,so technically,as they have a mixed fleet,they are allowed to use the word cab

But the complaint is specifically about the use of the word 'cab' on PHCs, and whether that complies with the legislation:

Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982, section 14, wrote:
Signs on vehicles other than taxis.

...there shall not be displayed on or in a private hire car any word, sign, notice, mark, illumination or other feature which may suggest that the vehicle is available for hire as a taxi.

Note that it doesn't specifically just ban the word 'taxi', or it would say that. So it's intended to be a bit wider than simply banning the t-word.

Not sure what Glasgow's PHC conditions say, but in fact Edinburgh's specifically ban the word 'cab':

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totally agree with you 100%
but as usual they will ignore the law,and gcc will do nothing.as always

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interstingly enough,today i noticed a couple of their p/h in the city with the sign across the back window saying GLASGO CARS instead of CABS,now its definetely GLASGO CABS on their hackneys,maybe theyve been told to remove the CAB wording from their phv,s and change it to CARS
thinking someone may have complained to GCC and theyre actually doing the right thing,for once

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thinking someone may have complained to GCC and theyre actually doing the right thing,for once

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jozefbloggz wrote:
interstingly enough,today i noticed a couple of their p/h in the city with the sign across the back window saying GLASGO CARS instead of CABS,now its definetely GLASGO CABS on their hackneys,maybe theyve been told to remove the CAB wording from their phv,s and change it to CARS
thinking someone may have complained to GCC and theyre actually doing the right thing,for once

Sounds about right. From what I was reading they were given a deadline to change the signage, but they hadn't met it, but I suppose these things will take time, and drivers on the ground might not be in much of a hurry to pick up the new stickers and replace them.

And, strictly speaking, it would be the badge- and/or plate-holders' resonsibility in legal terms, so how the council wen't about enforcing the rule isn't clear.

And, yes, the rule is pretty narrow, and simply applies to signage in PHVs, so it wouldn't be a problem on the HCs.
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And, strictly speaking, it would be the badge- and/or plate-holders' responsibility in legal terms

I think it would be the plate holders responsibility not the badge holders.

Reason being is it would be the vehicle that got suspended, not the driver.

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I think it would be the plate holders reasonability not the badge holders.

Reason being is it would be the vehicle that got suspended, not the driver.

Well that sounds eminently reasonable, but I hedged my bets a bit having read the recent stuff about who might be liable for prosecution for operating a vehicle out-of-area. But couldn't be bothered looking up what it said about this matter.

However, had a look last night, and:

Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982, section 14, wrote:
Signs on vehicles other than taxis.

(1) Subject to subsection (2) below, there shall not be displayed on or in a private hire car any word, sign, notice, mark, illumination or other feature which may suggest that the vehicle is available for hire as a taxi.

(2) Subsection (1) above does not apply in relation to any licence plate or other thing issued by the licensing authority for the purpose of indicating that the vehicle to which it relates is a private hire car or in relation to any sign required by virtue of section 21 of the M1Vehicles (Excise) Act 1971.

(3) Any person who—

    (a) drives a vehicle in respect of which subsection (1) is contravened; or

    (b) causes or knowingly permits that subsection to be contravened in respect of any vehicle,

shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding [level 3 on the standard scale].

So I'm assuming 14(3)(a) is aimed at badgeholders, and 14(3)(b) aimed at plateholders.

In fact (b) might also cover a despatch office, so in theory Glasgo Cabs/Cars could also be committing an offence :-o

Of course, kind of thing that's unlikely to be prosecuted, and licensing and/or police would just instruct them to do the necessary to comply with the provision.
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