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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:27 pm 
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However a PH picking up without a booking is uninsured no matter where they pick up from.

How many times do I hear this. The vehicle is still insured for 3rd party liabilities.

On reflection the PH (as in vehicle) isn't insured, a punter or third party is, but the vehicle and driver are not.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:49 am 
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Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
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However a PH picking up without a booking is uninsured no matter where they pick up from.

How many times do I hear this. The vehicle is still insured for 3rd party liabilities.

On reflection the PH (as in vehicle) isn't insured, a punter or third party is, but the vehicle and driver are not.

That is how it should be expressed. Although it is quite a bit for a Council to put on the stickers that PH vehicles display that just say "not pre booked - not insured".

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:30 pm 
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Last thing I will say about insurance on this thread, as it's not really pertinent to the thread, is that the issue only really arises when other drivers get it wrong when they talk to punters.

If another driver says 'don't get into that PH without pre-booking as the car isn't insured', then that's correct.

If another driver says 'don't get into that PH without pre-booking as you aren't insured', then that's not correct.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:35 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Last thing I will say about insurance on this thread, as it's not really pertinent to the thread, is that the issue only really arises when other drivers get it wrong when they talk to punters.

If another driver says 'don't get into that PH without pre-booking as the car isn't insured', then that's correct.

If another driver says 'don't get into that PH without pre-booking as you aren't insured', then that's not correct.


And if another driver says don’t get into that PH without pre- booking because that would be illegal?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:34 pm 
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Just lost another case and have to give jobs back to sacked drivers and pay compensation.


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Just lost another case and have to give jobs back to sacked drivers and pay compensation.


These Drivers seem to work for an Algorithm!!.....Uber seems to deny any knowledge of them and blame their algorithm, I find that truly terryfing, our lives are run by AI.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:41 pm 
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Recent and interesting judgement that involves Addison Lee.

As with Uber AL have had drivers challenging them in the Employment Tribunal.

These cases were put on hold until the Supreme Court made their decision in February.

Looks like AL's lawyers were saying the AL driver's situation wasn't the same as Uber drivers situation.

The High Court disagreed.

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2021/594.html

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:50 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Recent and interesting judgement that involves Addison Lee.

As with Uber AL have had drivers challenging them in the Employment Tribunal.

These cases were put on hold until the Supreme Court made their decision in February.

Looks like AL's lawyers were saying the AL driver's situation wasn't the same as Uber drivers situation.

The High Court disagreed.

https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2021/594.html



All private hire operators should be reconsidering their employment practices regarding these so called self employed private hire proprietor, it is only a matter of time someone knocks on their door asking for his/her holiday pay and their minimum wage payments.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:34 am 
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All private hire operators should be reconsidering their employment practices regarding these so called self employed private hire proprietor, it is only a matter of time someone knocks on their door asking for his/her holiday pay and their minimum wage payments.

It isn't cheap to be an employer. Unless you know exactly what you are doing there are many pitfalls. We used to have a very basic contract of employment but we realised that there were many issues with it so we brought in a human resources company to take care of this for us. We now have very comprehensive contracts that protect both the staff and the company. They also take care of such things as training for staff on aspects of their job that most people would not think of. But by providing this training we are legally covered should things go wrong. We have an online payroll system which does all the calculations of wages, holiday pay and pensions. And then there is the actual pension scheme where we have to keep the staff updated on things that happen with the scheme. Fortunately, we do not have to pay employers National Insurance because the Government give us a £4,000 annual allowance for this. This means that we can't claim back sick pay etc. under normal circumstances. We obviously have to contribute 3% of employees earnings to the pension and the employees contribute 5% of their wages. Not forgetting that we have to account for VAT on every fare.
Having said all that, at least if we get the knock on the door we are in the clear and can sleep at night and once set up it doesn't take much time to run the payroll system.

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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 6:49 pm 
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Judgement to cost Uber $600,000,000, or £431,000,000.

https://news.sky.com/story/uber-hit-wit ... s-12297920

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