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Author:  StuartW [ Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:34 pm ]
Post subject:  PHVs may be re-admitted to Walsall's 'underused' bus lanes

Open up 'underused' bus lanes in Walsall to private hire vehicles, plea

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Private hire vehicle drivers are not allowed to use bus lanes in Walsall since 2011 and calls have been made to change that

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Impassioned calls have been made to allow private hire drivers to utilise "underused" bus lanes in Walsall. Councillors across all parties said giving the green light for drivers to have the same rights as hackney carriages would help tackle congestion, enhance services and cut pollution.

At a full council meeting, Walsall Labour Group had put forward a motion calling on the administration to allow private hire drivers to use bus lanes. But this was defeated by an amended motion from the Conservatives, which leader Mike Bird said would allow for the issue to go to cabinet and through the necessary scrutiny and consultation phases before going to the West Midlands enhanced bus partnership of which Walsall is a member.

Prior to 2011, private hire vehicle drivers were allowed to use bus lanes in Walsall, along with taxis and cyclists. But the council changed this following national guidance to allow for the freer movement of buses and because it was easier for bus lane cameras to distinguish hackney carriage vehicles.

Councillor Bird said local authorities in the region and across the country also did the same at the time. Wolverhampton was one of those but later relaxed the law for private hire drivers before becoming a member of the partnership, which brings in around £88 million funding for bus services in the West Midlands.

Walsall Labour group deputy leader Khizar Hussain said: "We are asking for the drivers to be appreciated, respected and to give them that flexibility where they can use the bus lanes. It will benefit not only them but also customers - it will reduce the journey time, the anxiety of busy schedules.

"On top of that we are looking at being a climate efficient and carbon neutral. If we have less cars in traffic it will reduce emissions."

Labour leader Aftab Nawaz added: "A private hire vehicle can drive through bus lanes in Wolverhampton but they can't in Walsall and that's what we want to change. Drivers have told us again and again it is what they want."

Independent councillor Pete Smith said he backed the change and added he would "march with all drivers" if the proposal wasn't supported by cabinet. Conservative councillor Bobby Bains said: "Being so unfortunate to be stuck in traffic all the time and trying to get on the motorway for nearly an hour, you see an empty bus lane while you are waiting there.

"The bus lanes don't seem to work in Walsall. What we get is a bus coming along the inside while we are queuing with six to 10 people on it." His colleague Waheed Rasab added: "I'm sure most would agree allowing private hire vehicles on bus lanes in Walsall is not going to harm and will only improve the service to commuters.

Bus lanes are underused. Every time I see a bus, it's empty. More people are going away from public transport and using their own vehicles or private hire. Surely we have a responsibility to try and make our road network better, faster and efficient for our residents.

And Councillor Suky Samra said: "There is a consensus that bus lanes should be opened up for private hire vehicles sometime in the future. The drivers out there want a resolution as soon as possible."

Councillor Bird, and his deputy Adrian Andrew, said the issue will go before the next cabinet meeting. He said: "I would give an undertaking whatever cabinet decides, it will be referred to licensing for their input. It would then go to the enhanced bus partnership for their input.

"It is not as simple as people make out. At no time have we said it cannot be done. It maybe that everyone in the world agrees, but I can't pre-empt the cabinet decision." Councillor Andrew added: "There is a lot of sympathy for this to go ahead but we want to do things properly."

Author:  StuartW [ Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PHVs may be re-admitted to Walsall's 'underused' bus lan

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Councillor Bird, and his deputy Adrian Andrew, said the issue will go before the next cabinet meeting. He said: "I would give an undertaking whatever cabinet decides, it will be referred to licensing for their input. It would then go to the enhanced bus partnership for their input.

By the time they get all this sorted out the cars will be driverless anyway :roll:

Author:  Sussex [ Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PHVs may be re-admitted to Walsall's 'underused' bus lan

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for the issue to go to cabinet and through the necessary scrutiny and consultation phases before going to the West Midlands enhanced bus partnership of which Walsall is a member.

And a final decision in about 20 years. :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:

Author:  StuartW [ Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PHVs may be re-admitted to Walsall's 'underused' bus lan

As was eminently predictable from the article above, it looks like it'll be a slow process.

Can't be bothered poring over this, but it looks like simply reporting that the council has agreed to consult with another body :-s

Surprised it's even worth reporting all the ins and outs in this sort of detail, but maybe it's a big issue in Walsall :-o


Calls to allow private hire vehicles to use bus lanes in Walsall is backed by council chiefs

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/loc ... ll-backed/

Calls to allow private hire vehicles to use bus lanes in Walsall to help them get more passengers and avoid traffic jams have been backed by council bosses.

Walsall Council will consult with the West Midlands Enhanced Bus Partnership about a change in rules which would give private hire vehicles the same rights as hackney carriages.

At a full council meeting last month, councillors from all sides of the chamber strongly debated the issue and said the amendment would help cut congestion, enhance services and reduce pollution.

And the authority’s cabinet unanimously agreed to engage with the partnership on whether it is likely to be agreed before moving ahead to a formal application.

In a statement at Wednesday’s meeting, Birchills Leamore ward councillor Amo Hussain said: “There is a strength of feeling this would assist them in securing more passengers as they are constantly held up in traffic jams, much of which has been created by Transport for West Midlands in securing free movement for buses but to the detriment of all other road users.

“This is evident at the Town Hill, Ablewell Street and Upper Rushall Street area where the new traffic arrangements are creating traffic build up and many of the changes of traffic lights before cars and private hire vehicles can access this arterial route.

“I know Wolverhampton allow private hire vehicles to use bus lanes and this was before the enhanced partnership arrangements were put in place.

“I trust the cabinet will agree to consult with the relevant partners to secure this change.”

Deputy leader Adrian Andrew said: “I think it’s fair to say it was a controversial issue.

“If we can get the approval of the enhanced partnership which we need to consult with than I think it would be a sensible move to allow this to happen..

“This administration would like to see this but we are bound by another organisation that we will go and consult with and see what they have to say.”

Author:  StuartW [ Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: PHVs may be re-admitted to Walsall's 'underused' bus lan

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Walsall Council will consult with the West Midlands Enhanced Bus Partnership about a change in rules which would give private hire vehicles the same rights as hackney carriages.

Wonder what it did before it became 'Enhanced'? :?

Birchills Leamore ward councillor Amo Hussain wrote:
“I know Wolverhampton allow private hire vehicles to use bus lanes and this was before the enhanced partnership arrangements were put in place."

Not sure Wolverhampton City Council is the best role model as regards anything to do with private hire issues [-(

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