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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:37 pm 
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Saw an article about the fare rises in Hartlepool the other day, but it didn't look particularly interesting, so just ignored it. A slightly different angle here, but in truth it's still not particularly interesting in that soiling charges have been discussed to death on here. Current charge of £35 certainly cheap though :?


Taxi drivers call for help in struggle to pay kebab, urine and vomit clean-up costs

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/tees ... e-26428016

Cabbies say the costs of valeting their vehicles have soared during the cost of living crisis

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Taxi drivers are calling for help to foot the bill of cleaning their cabs as the cost of living crisis continues.

Hackney carriage drivers in Hartlepool are asking for the soiling charge limit to be raised from £35 to £100 to help keep their vehicles stain-free, with substances ranging from kebabs to vomit and urine. The move is being proposed by the Taxi Owners Working Group, a small group of hackney carriage drivers elected by the trade, and will be discussed by the town's licensing committee.

Neil Handisides, one of the working group members, said the increase is needed because the economic crisis has seen the costs of having vehicles properly valeted has rocketed. He said: "If someone vomits all over the car you have to get it properly cleaned to try to get rid of the smell. Sometimes people will wee on the seats."

Neil, who has The Big Yellow Taxi facebook page, said he can remember an incident of someone throwing kebab all around his mini-bus, but luckily the police were passing and told the customer to cough up for the cleaning.

He said: "At the moment the maximum soiling charge is £35, I think it's one of the lowest anywhere. But, it could cost me £150 to have a full valet on my minibus and for cars you are looking at between £50 and £100. I would say that this time last year it would have been between £30 and £50.

"It's not that we would always charge £100. It is just that would be the maximum." Neil, who has been a taxi driver in Hartlepool for 23 years, said: "It can be a tough job, but I absolutely love it."

Councillors will also consider a request from hackney carriage drivers to increase taxi fares on Sundays and at certain times during the festive period at a meeting of Hartlepool Council's licensing committee on Friday, March 10. It suggests increasing the cost of a two mile journey between 7am and midnight on Sundays by £1.40.

The proposals also include pricing alterations which would mean the cost for a two mile trip between 7am and 6pm during the period between December 24 to 31 would increase by £3.20. A £1.40 rise would also be seen for the same length of journey during those hours from December 18 to 23.

A report from Sylvia Pinkney, council assistant director for regulatory services, recommends approval of the changes. It said: "Any increase in tariffs must reflect a balance between allowing licensed drivers to generate a reasonable income whilst representing value for money for the travelling public.

"An increase in the soiling charge to a maximum of £100 will provide greater compensation for the driver where there is a significant loss of work due to the fault of a passenger." It added drivers can ask for less and "should charge less" than £100 for the soiling charge "where the cleaning required is less serious".

Should the changes be approved, a public notice will be issued to inform Hartlepool residents, and if any objections are received within 14 days, it will be referred back to the licensing committee before implementation.

According to the taxi trade magazine, Private Hire Monthly, Hartlepool's hackney carriage tariffs remain "some of the lowest in the country". The changes would only be for Hartlepool's yellow hackney cabs that use designated taxi ranks, and would not apply to private hire vehicles.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:38 pm 
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Well maybe Hartlepool has historically had among the lowest regulated HC tariffs, but Mr Big Yellow Taxi's out-of-area runs certainly aren't cheap :-o

I mean, these are return prices, but he's charging at least £650 for a 240 mile run to Stansted Airport? :shock:

Yet he's charging less to Heathrow?? Here's hoping he actually knows where Stansted is :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:37 am 
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Almost didn't bother reading this, but some interesting comments about the soiling charge. Anyone else think the figures cited kind of contradict what's said earlier in the article about drivers leaving because they can't make a living?

Echoes of the Wakefield HCD's comments, methinks :roll:


Councillors back bid to increase Hartlepool taxi journeys on Sundays and at Christmas

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/p ... as-4059920

Councillors have unanimously backed proposals from hackney carriage drivers to increase taxi fares on Sundays and at certain times during the festive period.

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The rise will see the cost of a two-mile journey on Sundays in Hartlepool between 7am and midnight increase by £1.40.

Proposals approved by Hartlepool Borough Council’s licensing committee on Friday, March 10, also include a £1.40 rise for a two-mile journey between 7am and 6pm during the period December 18 to 23.

Additionally, the cost for a two-mile trip between 7am and 6pm on December 24 and 31 is to increase by £3.20.

A rise in the “soiling charge” from £35 to a maximum of £100 is set to come in as part of the changes, which can be imposed by a driver if they believe a passenger has left their vehicle in need of cleaning.

The proposals came from the Taxi Owners Working Group, a small group of hackney carriage drivers elected by the trade.

Councillors ruled the increases are key to help drivers make a reasonable living and mitigate against potential losses for time off the road if a cleaning is needed.

Councillor Ben Clayton said: “Getting a taxi is becoming increasingly difficult because there are a lot of drivers that have left the trade.

“Anything we can do to make the profession more attractive and give them that flexibility to try and make ends meet and make a decent living from it, I’m all for it.”

Councillor Carole Thompson, a former private hire driver for five years, noted a passenger “soiling” a taxi would normally happen on a night.

Councillors heard an example from one hackney carriage driver who claimed if a car had to come off the road for cleaning on a Saturday night they could lose out on “£400 or £500”, which is their “money to live with”.

All 81 vehicle owners were consulted on the changes, with seven objections lodged, claiming the increases are too high.

However, drivers can ask for less than any approved tariff or for less than the £100 soiling charge if they wish.

A public notice will now be issued outlining the changes with 14 days allowed for any objections to be lodged.

The increases will only be for Hartlepool’s yellow hackney cabs, and would not apply to private hire vehicles.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:30 pm 
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I mean, these are return prices, but he's charging at least £650 for a 240 mile run to Stansted Airport? :shock:


we used to charge £110 each way before the pandemic and it's more than double the distance from Hartlepool so that is not an unrealistic price considering the extortionate drop off/pick up or parking fees at Stansted. After all that price is for a drop off and then a pick up a week or so later which is 4 long drives :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:22 am 
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Actually, Edders, the price quoted for the return trip is £1,300, so £650 for the one-way trip (assuming there's no discount for a return - the single trip could well be £700) :-o

According to Google Stamford to Stansted is 75 miles, so at £110 you were charging less than £1.50/mile :-o

But even rounding that up to £1.50/mile, at that rate the 240 mile run from Hartlepool would only be £360 - he's charging nearly double that :-o

To be fair, though, and as I alluded earlier, he's very probably made an error with the Stansted pricing, since he's quoting less for Heathrow and Gatwick :-o

Here's another Hartlepool firm quoting £450 for both Heathrow and Gatwick, which I suspect is a more realistic price in the local market. Mr Big Yellow Taxi is quoting £1,300 return for Gatwick, thus at least £650 for the one-way trip :-o

(If I didn't know the distances, this page makes it sound like these figures are for a return trip, but presumably they're one-way prices.)

https://www.hartlepool-taxis.com/airport-transfers


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:00 pm 
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Personally, I think it's a bad move to put price lists on the internet.

Get them to contact you for a price.

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