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Man arrested after woman reports being raped in 'off-duty taxi' after night out

The family of a young woman who reported being raped after a night out in Derry last weekend have warned members of the public to be vigilant.
By Kevin Mullan
Published 3rd Jan 2024, 16:47 GMT

A man has been arrested by police after the young woman reported being raped in the early hours of New Year’s Eve.

The victim, who is in her early 30s, was on a night out with friends in the city centre and reported being sexually assaulted after getting into what she described as ‘an off-duty taxi’.

Her family contacted the ‘Journal’ to warn women to be vigilant after the assault.

A relative said they feared it wasn’t the perpetrators’ first victim.

The young woman was in a night spot in the city centre when a man approached her and her friend, they said.

"He came over and said ‘oh, I've picked you up a few times’. He asked if he could get them a drink. He got them a drink and took them down to the end of the bar. Her friend was getting a bad vibe off him,” the relative said.

They left the man and the night spot and the young woman ordered a taxi on her phone.

"As she was awaiting her booked taxi he appeared in an off-duty taxi. She saw it was the correct company so jumped in. As soon as she saw the man she felt uneasy.

"He proceeded to take her the route home but took the road off to Prehen stating it was a ‘short-cut’ to the Waterside area where she was going."

He parked the car. It was at this point the woman reports being raped.

The relative described the horrific ordeal the woman went through.

"Then he just got off her and took her home as if nothing had happened.”

The victim asked the man to stop some distance from her home because she did not want him to know where she lived.

She ran home and told her partner about the rape and they reported it to the PSNI.

The relative spoke about the impact the attack has had.

"She is not good,” the relative said. “She is afraid to even leave her house at the minute. She has had to get tablets from the doctor to even sleep. It is not something that anyone should have to go through.

“He seemed to know what he was doing. She feels like he has probably done it before and will likely do it again if something isn't done about it. She just wants to make people aware.”

Police confirmed they have arrested a 59-year-old man following a report of a serious sexual assault in the Waterside area on December 31.

The man was later released on police bail to allow for further enquiries to take place into the investigation. Enquiries are ongoing.

The woman’s relative said: "The victim is clearly traumatized but wants to get the message out so women in the Derry and Strabane area become more vigilant and don’t get into taxis that are off-duty.”

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after getting into what she described as ‘an off-duty taxi’.

If it was an off-duty taxi (whatever that is), why did she get in it? :-k

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:36 pm 
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Sussex, I took it to mean that she thought it was a legit car when it pulled up, but only realised it was the 'off duty' driver when she got in. All seems a bit odd, though :?

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we used to have a driver that would loiter at popular pick up points and grab other drivers fares before they could get to them. We did get rid of him but maybe this one wasn't officially on shift but was trying to earn a bit extra. After all many firms will send a text with the details of the driver and car to the customer.

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Well this helps explain it all - looks like the vehicle and driver weren't a legitimate 'taxi' after all, thus the 'off-duty' dimension is a red herring.

But who knows what happened? Maybe the perp posed as a legitimate taxi driver and took advantage, or maybe he just offered her a lift home.

But I'm surprised words like 'intoxication' or 'inebriation' aren't used here, but of course you're not allowed to say that :-#


Investigation continues after woman reports being raped in Derry: 'Legal taxi' ruled out by police

https://www.derryjournal.com/news/crime ... ce-4465222

The PSNI are continuing to investigate the reported rape of a young woman in Derry on New Year’s Eve and say they do not believe a car involved in the incident was a ‘legal taxi’.

A PSNI spokesperson said: “At this time, from the enquiries made in our investigation, we do not believe that the vehicle involved is associated with, linked to or registered with any legal taxi firm.

“Two men were arrested as part of the investigation.

“One of these man, aged 59 years old, has been ruled out of the enquiry and is no longer a suspect.

“The second man who was arrested, aged 58 years old, was released on bail to allow for further police enquiries.

“The investigation continues.”

The victim, who is in her early 30s, was on a night out with friends in the city centre and reported being sexually assaulted after getting into what she believed to be a taxi.

Her family contacted the ‘Journal’ to warn women to be vigilant after the assault. A relative said they feared it wasn’t the alleged perpetrator’s first victim.

The young woman was in a night spot in the city centre when a man approached her and her friend, they said.

"He came over and said, ‘oh, I've picked you up a few times’. He asked if he could get them a drink.

"He then got them a drink and took them down to the end of the bar. Her friend was getting a bad vibe off him,” the relative said.

They subsequently left the man and the night spot and the young woman ordered a taxi on her phone.

As she was awaiting her booked taxi, a car which she believed to be the taxi appeared and she jumped in, the relative said.

Once in the vehicle she recognised the man from inside the bar.

"He proceeded to take her the route home but took the road off to Prehen, stating it was a ‘short-cut’ to the Waterside area where she was going."

He then parked the car. It was at this point the woman reports being raped.

The relative described the horrific ordeal the woman went through.

"Then he just got off her and took her home as if nothing had happened,” said the family member.

The victim, said her relative, asked the man to stop some distance from her home because she did not want him to know where she lived.

She then ran home and told her partner about the rape and they reported it to the PSNI.

The relative spoke of the impact the attack has had on the woman.

"She is not good,” the relative said. “She is afraid to even leave her house at the minute.

"She has had to get tablets from the doctor to even sleep. It is not something that anyone should have to go through.

“He seemed to know what he was doing. She feels like he has probably done it before and will likely do it again if something isn't done about it.

"She just wants to make people aware.”

Police confirmed that a 59-year-old man arrested following a report of a serious sexual assault in the Waterside area on December 31, 2023, has been ruled out of the enquiry and is no longer a suspect. A 58-year-old man was released on bail to allow for further enquiries.

The woman’s relative said the victim remains traumatised but wants to raise vigilance among young women in the city.


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"He came over and said, ‘oh, I've picked you up a few times’.


sounds like someone who is or has been connected with the trade. He clearly gave her that impression

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So presumably neither of the men arrested have anything to do with the trade, so police must be barking up the wrong tree, Edders:

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A PSNI spokesperson said: “At this time, from the enquiries made in our investigation, we do not believe that the vehicle involved is associated with, linked to or registered with any legal taxi firm.

Although, to be fair, the paragraph above is about the *vehicle* rather than the driver, so that would be consistent with the off-duty thing.

On the other hand, if they'd arrested a legitimate taxi driver or were looking for one, would PSNI have made a statement like that? Maybe I'm reading what they say about about the *vehicle* too literally.

And what the perp said to the victim sounds precisely what a *fake* taxi driver would say :-o


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But I'm surprised words like 'intoxication' or 'inebriation' aren't used here, but of course you're not allowed to say that :-#

Think generally we try to get away from victim shaming. I put the indirect blame (clearly the direct blame goes to the rapist) down to the lady's mates. She didn't go out on her own, I guess, so she shouldn't have been left to fend for herself.

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Don't get me started on the 'victim-blaming' narrative, Sussex :-o

If the victims in these kind of scenarios were to relive the night in question, I know what my advice would be, and I suspect the vast majority of the population would advise similar. But if that's what's called victim blaming, then so be it [-(

And if anyone thinks that makes me a bit po-faced, or whatever, then by the same token, Sussex's advice re friends looking out for each other in a drunken/drugged-up nightclub environment is about as useful as advising use an ashtray on a motorbike :shock:


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Anyway, don't want to offend anyone on here's sensibilities regarding off-topic stuff, but this article on the Speccie's website at the weekend is worth a read. It's about crime etc, and reflects a lot of the stuff on here about soft-touch policing and sentencing, and also touches on some of my own personal hobby horses regarding journalism and press reporting of court cases etc. Worth ten minutes of anyone's time:


Britain is soft on crime

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/bri ... -on-crime/

Louise Perry

I’m not actually a journalist, although I’m often described as such. Along with all the other critics, polemicists, and columnists, I should more accurately be described as a ‘commentator’, since my job is to sit around and opine.

Real journalists do exist, but they are a dying breed. When newspapers and magazines started to move online at the beginning of this century, it was discovered that the public weren’t very interested in journalism. Outlets realised that it was the commentary that actually attracted clicks, along with porn and funny cat videos, and so the commentators were rewarded while many of the journalists lost their jobs.

Over the last two decades, even big legacy outlets have ditched their investigative teams and foreign bureaus. In the UK, over 300 local newspaper titles closed between 2009 and 2019, while those that remain are struggling for resources. Alongside foreign news, domestic crime reporting has been worst hit. A House of Commons justice committee report from 2022 warned of a ‘well-documented decline’ in news coverage of the UK courts. In one snapshot study of Bristol Magistrates’ Court in 2018, students sat through 200 cases before they saw their first reporter.

‘Have you ever spent the day in a Magistrates’ Court?’ a (proper) journalist friend asked me recently. I had to confess that I had not, and it has also been many years since I set foot inside a Crown Court, once as a juror and a few times as a Rape Crisis worker. I’ve nevertheless had more exposure to the inner workings of the criminal justice system than the bulk of the public, most of whom will never see the inside of a police station, let alone a prison.

That’s as it should be. Like many social phenomena, crime seems to conform to the 80/20 rule: that is, 80 per cent of it is committed by only about 20 per cent of the population. Some studies estimate that the skew is even greater: one longitudinal study in Sweden found that just 1 per cent of the population (overwhelmingly young men) accounted for 63 per cent of violent crime convictions over a 31 year period; in England and Wales, 70 per cent of custodial sentences are handed out to offenders with at least seven previous convictions or cautions. Normal people don’t see the inside of the system because they do the right thing and obey the law.

But this fact, combined with too few court reporters, means that most people are ignorant about this branch of the state that we all vote and pay for. Thus two (rather vague) narratives have emerged over time. The first, an American import favoured by progressives, asserts that our prisons are full of a sad and sorry bunch of non-violent offenders who found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. The second narrative, favoured by most of the public, asserts that the system is soft, and that far too many dangerous offenders are permitted to wander the streets and victimise the public without being met with much in the way of either resistance or punishment.

As so often, the Great British public are correct in their intuitions, even if they are incorrect on the specifics. Progressive wonks like to make fun of the fact that voters consistently tell pollsters that crime levels have risen on the previous year, even when they haven’t. It’s hardly surprising that respondents are not well versed in the data on crime, given that most people are surprisingly innumerate. But looking at long term homicide rates shows that they have the general gist of the trend, for while rates may have fluctuated in recent decades, the baseline is now much higher than it was a century ago ­– roughly double what it was in Jack the Ripper’s day. Moreover, these homicide figures likely understate the true growth in serious violence, given that better medical care means that some victims now survive injuries that would once have been lethal.

The people who see the workings of the criminal justice system up close tend to agree with the public that crime levels are too high and punishment is too lax. ‘It’s incredible what you see there’ continued my (proper) journalist friend, having raised the issue of Magistrates’ Courts. ‘Some guy will come in having beheaded a grandmother, and as punishment we give him a flat and a job in Waitrose.’ He was joking, sort of. But you will often hear the same kind of dark humour from police, medics, and other professionals who see the system up close on a daily basis (‘a hot chocolate and a hand job’ is the typical sentence for most offenders, or so one policeman tells me).

Earlier this month, the Telegraph obtained data under Freedom of Information laws revealing the truth of these frontline reports. We can see from this data that offenders can rack up a stunning number of convictions before they ever see the inside of a prison cell: some have 50 theft convictions, 25 convictions for common assault, 20 for drug offences, and up to eight repeat convictions for carrying a knife. Over the last three years, 10,400 ‘super-prolific’ offenders, who had been convicted of more than 50 previous offences each, were spared jail. In other words, many criminals have to try really hard to end up in prison for anything at all.

In the national media you are likely to see detailed reports on only the outliers: the big sentences for big crimes, or sometimes the small sentences for big crimes. But these are just the cases that crest the surface.

The Parole Board’s persistent efforts to release Colin Pitchfork, for instance, the double child-murderer and rapist, have received some recent news coverage. Undeterred by the statistics showing that almost one in five murders are committed by someone on parole, the authorities seem determined to give 63-year-old Pitchfork the benefit of the doubt. The victims’ families don’t want him released, the tabloids don’t want him released, and polling suggests that the public don’t want him released either: almost 60 years on from its abolition, 55 per cent of UK respondents still tell YouGov that they would support the reintroduction of the death penalty for child murderers.

Occasionally these insights into the softness of the system will arrive at British breakfast tables in the form of grotesque examples like Pitchfork’s. Far more often, though, they don’t. For a fuller picture, the public must turn to the surviving rump of local news, where – if you can withstand the pop-up ads and clickbait – some truly extraordinary insights into our criminal justice system are intermittently brought to our attention.

Last month, for instance, (proper) journalists at Devon Live reported on a case involving a young female student at the University of Exeter who had been raped by restaurant worker Adam Mohammed after he followed her back to her halls of residence and lied to gain access to her room. The sentences that made my jaw drop were these, found in the middle of the report:

"The 23-year-old is a refugee from Sudan who was granted final leave to remain in Britain last year by the Home Office despite the fact that he was already facing this rape charge…He already had one conviction for an offence of battery committed outside a nightclub in Exeter in January 2022 when he was granted settled status in June 2022."

Sorry, we granted him final leave to remain in the country after doing what? Unsurprisingly, the Home Office do not release press releases when they make decisions like these, since they presumably have an accurate sense of the public’s view on granting asylum to violent offenders. And this court case was not reported in any national outlets – I came across it only because I saw it shared on Twitter, and subsequently mentioned by columnist Ben Sixsmith in the Critic. But for the tireless work of Devon Live, none of us would ever have heard about it, and the public would remain in the dark about how our asylum system apparently works.

Or take another recent case, this one even more alarming. On May 15, British Transport Police (BTP) released a self-congratulatory press release about the conviction of 32-year-old Abdulrizak Ali Hersi for the sexual assault of a 13-year-old girl on the Piccadilly Line in London. Hersi was sentenced to 18 months in prison, but he will likely only spend nine months inside since, along with almost all other offenders, he will presumably be released from prison halfway through his sentence and spend the remainder on licence (this slipperiness about sentence length is one of several ways in which the public are deceived about the true nature of the criminal justice system they pay for).

For the past five years, the writer Ed West has been keeping a very long and very depressing Twitter thread detailing local news stories about criminals who have received light sentences for shockingly serious offences. I like to send this thread to people who don’t believe me when I tell them how bad things are. Smashing a beer bottle over a victim’s head and trying to stab him? Spared jail. Stamping on a victim’s head and putting him in a coma? Spared jail. Assaulting a police officer? Oh absolutely spared jail. One man by the name of Theodore Johnson has been imprisoned three times for killing his partners: he was released from prison after three years for the first one, and spent just a short stint in a psychiatric unit after killing the second, permitting him to meet and murder a third.

The public express a clear desire for a tougher justice system. YouGov polling from 2019, for instance, finds that 70 per cent think that sentences should be harsher, while only 3 per cent think the opposite. And yet, far from delivering on that promise, this government has moved in the opposite direction: overall police officer numbers fell by 14.3 per cent between 2010 and 2019, and around 50 per cent of Britain’s police stations with front counters are now no longer available to the public. Ministry of Justice funding was cut by 25 per cent during the same period, and half of magistrates’ courts, and over a third of county courts, were closed.

In a happy coincidence for the government, the loss of crime reporters over the same period has partially concealed the inevitable consequences of these decisions. Crime has effectively been decriminalised, and the public have not been consulted on the decision. Worse than that, the public don’t even realise that the decision has been made.


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If anyone has any concerns in respect of the severity of sentences, and/or the laws dealing with the parole boards, then I suggest they contact their local MPs.

Personally not impressed with the article above.

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If the victims in these kind of scenarios were to relive the night in question, I know what my advice would be, and I suspect the vast majority of the population would advise similar. But if that's what's called victim blaming, then so be it [-(

I'm not sure many do wish to relive the night, quite the reverse.

Yes we can all say someone shouldn't have got rat-faced or they shouldn't wear next to nothing, but many do and they always will.

We all victim shame. On here we often use the 'bang your head' emoji when a driver is robbed of hundreds of pounds he has left in his cab overnight, or the numpty that does a £300 job but doesn't get the money upfront.

But sometimes it can come across as being unkind.

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If the victims in these kind of scenarios were to relive the night in question, I know what my advice would be, and I suspect the vast majority of the population would advise similar. But if that's what's called victim blaming, then so be it [-(

I'm not sure many do wish to relive the night, quite the reverse.

For casual readers, please reread what I said - it certainly wasn't that the victims would 'wish' to relive the night in question - it was more if they could wind the clock back, sort of thing [-(

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We all victim shame. On here we often use the 'bang your head' emoji when a driver is robbed of hundreds of pounds he has left in his cab overnight, or the numpty that does a £300 job but doesn't get the money upfront.

But sometimes it can come across as being unkind.

Well I obviously criticise a lot, if only because I tend to post a lot.

But I always try to keep any of that kind of stuff reasonably measured.

I wouldn't, for example stick the knife in because a driver was working under the 'wrong' code, say. Or because they're working on the 'wrong' platform, or whatever.


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If anyone has any concerns in respect of the severity of sentences, and/or the laws dealing with the parole boards, then I suggest they contact their local MPs.

In my opinion, about as much point as 20 years ago complaining to the Post Office about their faulty IT system and private prosecutions, or to South Yorkshire Police about grooming gangs in Rotherham :-|


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If anyone has any concerns in respect of the severity of sentences, and/or the laws dealing with the parole boards, then I suggest they contact their local MPs.

In my opinion, about as much point as 20 years ago complaining to the Post Office about their faulty IT system and private prosecutions, or to South Yorkshire Police about grooming gangs in Rotherham :-|

Twenty years is a long time, in fact a very long time, but both the terrible matters you mention have or are coming to a solution, at last.

As for the severity of sentencing it’s worth mentioning that the prison population is at its highest ever level. The increases are mainly down to tougher sentences for violent crime and drug offences.

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