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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:57 pm 
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show me a politician who doesn't make a u turn if they think votes might be lost !

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:49 am 
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Surprised this went ahead, but it's presumably because of the political complexion of this particular council - I'd guess the average local authority wouldn't do this.

More likely that the Green councillor's minority view below would prevail in the average council, I'd guess. And, for a change I'm inclined to agree with the Green councillor's views :-o


Ban on Union Flag in Shropshire taxis is lifted

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/tra ... is-lifted/

A ban on Union Flags being displayed in taxis and private hire vehicles in Shropshire will be lifted following changes to licensing rules.

A vote held at Shropshire Council’s strategic licensing committee on Thursday approved changes which will allow taxi drivers in the county to display one Union Flag on their vehicle, provided it meets the authority’s size and placing requirements.

Earlier this year, John Brockhurst, owner of Basil's Taxi based in Market Drayton, was told to remove a large cross of St George from his vehicle because it broke the county’s licensing rules which prohibited the display of national flags on taxis and private hire vehicles.

A motion to approve the changes was carried at the committee, with one vote against and one abstention.

Green Party councillor for Oswestry West, Mike Isherwood, had argued against the proposals, calling them “needlessly divisive”.

“I find it unfair, discriminatory and I’m surprised it would even be legal,” he told the meeting.

“I think they key word is neutrality – we should have a neutral policy on this and that’s best achieved with the [current] policy… which has gone through the proper consultation process.

“It’s needlessly divisive to introduce flags to taxis especially if its only privileged to one nation’s flag.”

Councillor Isherwood proposed an amendment to a motion to support the changes, saying the council should allow flags of other nations to be flown, which was not seconded.

A report from Shropshire Council’s head of consumer protection Frances Darling said relaxing rules around displaying of the Union Flag could leave customers “concerned for their safety”.

“It should also be acknowledged that potential passengers may be concerned for their own safety should they find that a Hackney carriage or private hire vehicle they intend to hire is displaying the Union Flag. This is due to its known appropriation by those with nationalist and right-wing sentiments,” she said.

But speaking in support of the motion, Conservative councillor Garry Burchett said the changes would help to “reclaim” the Union Flag from far right elements.

“The Union Flag has been stolen and we need to make a huge effort to publicise it as much as we can,” he said.

“I understand what Councillor Isherwood is saying but I think the report goes a small way toward addressing that problem and I propose that we accept the report.”


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:50 am 
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Shropshire Council’s head of consumer protection Frances Darling wrote:
It should also be acknowledged that potential passengers may be concerned for their own safety should they find that a Hackney carriage or private hire vehicle they intend to hire is displaying the Union Flag. This is due to its known appropriation by those with nationalist and right-wing sentiments.

So when some people see a Union flag they feel concerned for their safety? She makes it sound more like a swastika than the national flag. But that's pretty much establishment/orthodox thinking these days :?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:00 pm 
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These cases drive me mad.

I would sooner councils just turned a blind eye, and drivers didn't make a song and dance about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:24 am 
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Most of this is rehash, but some new reaction and comments.

Again, I'm inclined to agree with the Green councillor who says that it's divisive and possible illegal. I'd guess he's right about the latter point, but testing it would depend on someone else pressing the issue and perhaps taking legal action.

Basil's right as well, to a point - it's all a bit of a nonsense. But not sure about someone who wants to wear this kind of stuff on his sleeve (almost literally) in a commercial environment like this. Maybe if he was private hire only, but not so much if he's working the ranks.

Don't know what it's like in his gaff, but if he was where I am he'd occasionally have guys on the rank on their hands and knees praying, on the tarmac, both behind and in front of his cab. Of course, that's more about religiosity rather than flags and nationalities per se, but not sure how Basil would get on with that :?


'Common sense prevails' says taxi driver after he's allowed to put Union flag on vehicle

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/loc ... n-vehicle/

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A taxi driver who won his battle to display the Union flag on his vehicle said "it should not have happened in the first place".

John 'Basil' Brockhurst, who runs Basil's Taxi in Market Drayton was told to remove the Cross of St George from his taxi by Shropshire Council last year.

The decision sparked outrage, with many calling the council short-sighted over its decision to ban the veteran from displaying the flag on his vehicle – something he said was a source of pride in reflection of his time in the military.

Last week the council's licensing committee voted to scrap the ban – although the new rules will only permit the display of an A4-sized Union flag.

Basil, 64, who served his country with the Light Infantry from 1975 to 1993, said he welcomed the change of heart, but was baffled and angry at the original decision.

He said that 'common sense prevails'.

He had been notified of the original demand to remove the flag by email – but his vehicles had actually been displaying the Cross of St George for the previous eight years, leaving him wondering why it had suddenly become an issue.

He said: "They have overturned the decision but they have stipulated I can only use the Union flag – but no bigger than an A4 piece of paper."

He added: "Obviously I have been annoyed, they are dictating to me what I can and can't put on my car."

Basil said that he would 'make it work' with the new rules, but would also like to add a poppy and the regimental cap of the Light Infantry to his Volkswagen Caddy in the future.

The council committee took the decision to overturn the ban earlier this week, but it was not straight forward.

Green Party councillor for Oswestry West, Mike Isherwood, argued against the proposals, calling them “needlessly divisive.”

He said: “I find it unfair, discriminatory and I’m surprised it would even be legal.

“I think they key word is neutrality – we should have a neutral policy on this and that’s best achieved with the [current] policy… which has gone through the proper consultation process.

“It’s needlessly divisive to introduce flags to taxis especially if its only privileged to one nation’s flag.”

A report from Shropshire Council’s head of consumer protection Frances Darling noted that the relaxing of rules around displaying of the Union Flag could leave some customers “concerned for their safety.”

“It should also be acknowledged that potential passengers may be concerned for their own safety should they find that a hackney carriage or private hire vehicle they intend to hire is displaying the Union Flag. This is due to its known appropriation by those with nationalist and right-wing sentiments,” she said.

But Basil, who commended North Shropshire MP Helen Morgan for her support in overturning his ban, said people had a choice whether to use his taxi or not.

He said: "Personally if people don't like it they don't ring me and they don't use me."


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:35 pm 
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If people are offended by the Union Jack then i suggest they go elsewhere to live .


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:59 pm 
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youbeenbusy wrote:
If people are offended by the Union Jack then i suggest they go elsewhere to live .

That's the issue, no one is.

But the rule wasn't/isn't a ban on the Union Jack, it's a ban on all flags.

Just change the rules without having a row about it.

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