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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:18 am 
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Large 3 bedroom 8 berth caravan to hire on park resorts Ty Mawr site, in Towyn, North Wales.
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Last of July is 11-18th £400

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 9:47 am 
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They are all at it, but would you get away with it?


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Whinfell Forest


1 week stay
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Accommodation 1 - Executive 4 bed Games Lodge
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4 Bedrooms
£1,639.00
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:03 am 
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In our business there are far to many people who simply forget that it IS a business. The word profit to some is a dirty word. Tomorrow is a bank holiday and our drivers, who choose to work will be charging the Council approved bank holiday rate of DOUBLE the normal day rate. Customers will be advised of this before they get in the car or before they boo on the phone. The customer then has the option of taking the rate or trying another company. There are some drivers who will charge normal fare just to get the fare.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:13 am 
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grandad wrote:
In our business there are far to many people who simply forget that it IS a business. The word profit to some is a dirty word. Tomorrow is a bank holiday and our drivers, who choose to work will be charging the Council approved bank holiday rate of DOUBLE the normal day rate. Customers will be advised of this before they get in the car or before they boo on the phone. The customer then has the option of taking the rate or trying another company. There are some drivers who will charge normal fare just to get the fare.


I charge Normal rate regardless of Bank Holidays, not through desperation for work but through a sense of fairness to all my clients who use my servies throughout the rest of the year..now if they wish to drop in a gratuity by way of thanks on the day then that's fine.

But these Holiday sales are not charging extra for bank holidays or to cover staff bank holiday overtime, they are charging it through pure greed just because they can.


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:43 am 
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But these Holiday sales are not charging extra for bank holidays or to cover staff bank holiday overtime, they are charging it through pure greed just because they can.

It is not greed it is supply and demand.

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bloodnock wrote:

I charge Normal rate regardless of Bank Holidays, not through desperation for work but through a sense of fairness to all my clients who use my servies throughout the rest of the year..now if they wish to drop in a gratuity by way of thanks on the day then that's fine.


This is where our thinking differs. There are 365 days in the year and there are, in England 8 public holidays and if you count Easter Sunday, which is a premium rate day here, that makes 9 days throughout the year when the enhanced rate applies. I think it is fair to charge the enhanced rate on these occasion. If a driver chooses to work for less then that is their choice but I will never tell a driver to work for less that the prescribed rate.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 11:58 am 
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The passengers should be grateful a driver decides to give up his holiday and provide a service, and every driver who does work should ask every punter what they get if they work a B/H.....many get trebble time plus a day off

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:42 pm 
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grandad wrote:
bloodnock wrote:

But these Holiday sales are not charging extra for bank holidays or to cover staff bank holiday overtime, they are charging it through pure greed just because they can.


It is not greed it is supply and demand.


I think that people tend to get a wee bit lost on that saying! The bottom line being is that through the "greed" that is allowed in this country, it is that the rich will always get what they want because they can afford it.....thus forcing the price up over and above what should be charged. The term helps to create an elite affordability created by the poor/rich divide, and then hidden in glossed over spiel.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:59 pm 
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grandad wrote:
bloodnock wrote:

I charge Normal rate regardless of Bank Holidays, not through desperation for work but through a sense of fairness to all my clients who use my servies throughout the rest of the year..now if they wish to drop in a gratuity by way of thanks on the day then that's fine.


This is where our thinking differs. There are 365 days in the year and there are, in England 8 public holidays and if you count Easter Sunday, which is a premium rate day here, that makes 9 days throughout the year when the enhanced rate applies. I think it is fair to charge the enhanced rate on these occasion. If a driver chooses to work for less then that is their choice but I will never tell a driver to work for less that the prescribed rate.


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The passengers should be grateful a driver decides to give up his holiday and provide a service, and every driver who does work should ask every punter what they get if they work a B/H.....many get trebble time plus a day off



On both of the above I think you are wrong. Just because a kings ransom can be charged in Dubai for a taxi fare does not mean to say the same applies in say India.

In other words you can only charge what your area affordability allows, as such it is not a given just because it is a bank hol, what it should be & what it is - is two different things. By forcing the issue/point, it can in reality drive business away from those who can only just afford to use them.

People as such are very much creatures of habit, and if you break that habit - then you risk losing that business for ever and a day, not really a good idea as you/I need to keep them interested for future gain, on that basis a little bit of business sense needs to be applied. Think about it, just because a Tesco worker gets double time and a day in lieu.....it does not mean to say that the girl/guy working in a corner shop gets the same - it is all about affordability.......not what it should be.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:25 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:

I charge Normal rate regardless of Bank Holidays, not through desperation for work but through a sense of fairness to all my clients who use my servies throughout the rest of the year..now if they wish to drop in a gratuity by way of thanks on the day then that's fine.


This is where our thinking differs. There are 365 days in the year and there are, in England 8 public holidays and if you count Easter Sunday, which is a premium rate day here, that makes 9 days throughout the year when the enhanced rate applies. I think it is fair to charge the enhanced rate on these occasion. If a driver chooses to work for less then that is their choice but I will never tell a driver to work for less that the prescribed rate.


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The passengers should be grateful a driver decides to give up his holiday and provide a service, and every driver who does work should ask every punter what they get if they work a B/H.....many get trebble time plus a day off



On both of the above I think you are wrong. Just because a kings ransom can be charged in Dubai for a taxi fare does not mean to say the same applies in say India.

In other words you can only charge what your area affordability allows, as such it is not a given just because it is a bank hol, what it should be & what it is - is two different things. By forcing the issue/point, it can in reality drive business away from those who can only just afford to use them.

People as such are very much creatures of habit, and if you break that habit - then you risk losing that business for ever and a day, not really a good idea as you/I need to keep them interested for future gain, on that basis a little bit of business sense needs to be applied. Think about it, just because a Tesco worker gets double time and a day in lieu.....it does not mean to say that the girl/guy working in a corner shop gets the same - it is all about affordability.......not what it should be.

People here have the choice. They can use a cheaper firm if they wish. However, our phones ring on a regular basis that is increasing month on month, year on year so we must be doing something right.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:19 pm 
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People here have the choice. They can use a cheaper firm if they wish. However, our phones ring on a regular basis that is increasing month on month, year on year so we must be doing something right.


Of course they have that choice and I am sure that you run a good company which will also do you no harm. However if I remember correctly you mentioned some weeks/months back that you were (words to the effect of) happy with the jobs situation in your neck of the woods! Unfortunately it is not the same for most of the country, on that issue I see that nothing of significance re jobs that give me cause for optimism. In Cardiff with a 320/340,000 population and access to over a million within 25 miles.....even with that density we would not get away with time and a half/double time/whatever. Jobs down here for the masses are Retail, Call Centres, and of course the National minimum wage. We also have oodles of Zero contract hour job and the likes of Admiral who employ thousands, they are apparently a good company to work for.....but the pay is not that clever from them or the other employments.

The one thing that Wales has always had, is low wages. Back in the days when we had a car industry we had to fight for parity with Solihull, we eventually got it. The bottom line being is that a loaf of bread (so to speak) costs the same here as there, and pretty much the same as most other places outside of the other country (London). Property is also not (depending on what you want) cheap, so once you pay for your loaf and property etc disposable income is what it is all about.... there lays the problem.

So, if you can get away with it, then the best of luck. The bottom line being is that the tariffs up and down the country tell the true story - do you think that you would get away with charging say a London tariff? Hmm thought not! as I mentioned it is very much horses for courses and most certainly not a given.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:20 pm 
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Not many firms pay treble time and a day in lieu nowadays, thanks to the Tories and their zero hour contracts treble time doesn't exist anymore.

In retail they don't get treble time anymore, look at Next, only last week they announced that they wouldn't be paying enhanced payments for staff who work weekends and holidays, even those on continental shifts 4 on 4 off don't get extra pay for bank holidays.

We're in a service society nowadays not a manufacturing one.


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The one thing that Wales has always had, is low wages. Back in the days when we had a car industry we had to fight for parity with Solihull, we eventually got it. The bottom line being is that a loaf of bread (so to speak) costs the same here as there, and pretty much the same as most other places outside of the other country (London). Property is also not (depending on what you want) cheap, so once you pay for your loaf and property etc disposable income is what it is all about.... there lays the problem.


Do you have knocking shops down there? I realise they wont have T2 but then again theres so many giving it away how do they stay open?

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Cabby John 1 wrote:

The one thing that Wales has always had, is low wages. Back in the days when we had a car industry we had to fight for parity with Solihull, we eventually got it.

Was that a British Leyland plant?

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The one thing that Wales has always had, is low wages. Back in the days when we had a car industry we had to fight for parity with Solihull, we eventually got it. The bottom line being is that a loaf of bread (so to speak) costs the same here as there, and pretty much the same as most other places outside of the other country (London). Property is also not (depending on what you want) cheap, so once you pay for your loaf and property etc disposable income is what it is all about.... there lays the problem.


Do you have knocking shops down there? I realise they wont have T2 but then again theres so many giving it away how do they stay open?


T2!!! from what I can gather you would not want to pay tariff 1 unless you want to empty your pockets. There again I would imagine there would be tariff 1,2,3,4,5,6....if you know what I mean :roll:

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Never knock warm Welsh generosity :wink:

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